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  • Huskinhano
    Legendary BangShifter
    • Dec 2007
    • 5456

    #1

    DYI home alignment

    I just completed my suspension upgrade on my 66. I did a write up on a word doc but when I tried to paste it for a post, I got an error message but never stated what the error was. So I thought I'd break it up a little and post this. The main purpose of this post is to show you guys that if you have never done an alignment, don't be afraid to try. I had strayed a little bit from my original scope on my Mustang's suspension and realized with the components, it would be really helpful and save me a lot of money, aggravation and frustration. On my Mustang caster and camber are set by shims. Install more shims in the front A arm bolt and you add caster as well as adding positive camber which is what I don't want. The problem with early Mustangs is they have too much positive camber. My new suspension components from Street or Track offer lots of options in setting caster and camber. I did not install any shims initially since my UCA already have the rod ends adjusted for what I guess is about 3* positive caster. So follow along!

    I was lucky, my floor was dead flat side to side. I used a piece of aluminum C channel that came from an old token ring rack and a digital level from Sears. I wasn't too worried about the floor being level front to back, I'll explain later.


    Next, I needed a line on the floor parallel to the tires on either side. I used a piece of angle aluminum from the same rack. While not visible, I folded up 3mil, 55 gal contractor plastic garbage bags under each front tire to act as turn tables. Several layers of wax paper will work too.


    My caster/camber gauge came Goracin off ebay but Longacre has the exact same one, same price just different color and name stamped on it. This is on my left wheel, it reads just a little more then 1.25* neg camber, roughly what I was looking for. My only complaint with the gauge is the bubble could be a little bigger. As it is, if I had exactly 1.25*, one edge of the bubble would be right in the middle of .75* and 1* and the other edge of the bubble would be between 1.25* and 1.5*.


    This is the right wheel. originally I had 1.5* neg camber. I could have left it at this point and been fine especially since it's just a street car. More out of curiosity I wanted to see if I could do better. I initially tried a 1/64" shim but it didn't do too much so I pulled them out and installed 1/32" shims and got this. With in 1/8*! I'll take that. I should also note that at the end of the gauge is another bubble to make sure the gauge is level front to back.


    You can see the shim I added


    And here


    Setting caster; First I have to apologize, I didn't get the whole image of the end of the gauge. The end is machined to a 140* angle. Now here's where that pencil line comes in. I turned the left wheel to the left. That 140* angle also means there are two 20* angles as well. So eye up the end of the gauge to the pencil line and there you have it. The wheel is 20* to the left. No need to have a degreed turntable that the alignment shop has. it's very easy to get the gauge exactly parallel to the pencil line. Now we set the gauge to 0* with the thumbscrew. Also make sure you level front to back the gauge with the bubble at the end.


    Now turn the wheel to the right. Here you can see the end of the gauge line up to the pencil line on the floor giving me my 20* to the right.


    And here I have 3.5* positive caster. Instead of playing with shims and having a catch 22 with camber, I simple adjust the front struts. Normally they are not adjustable on 65-66 but the ones I bought are.


    To set toe, I used two wooden folding rulers supported by bricks so the ruler wouldn't sag and altering the reading. I tried tape rulers but the end that's riveted had too much slop for my liking. I used the left wheel the starting point and used the edge of the tread. I didn't show the left wheel, only the front and back of the right to show readings. So we have a reading of 58 and 7/16".


    Here's the back of the right tire, I got my 1/16" of toe that I was looking for by adjusting the sleeves on the tie rods. make sure you center the steering wheel first. I didn't have to hold the steering wheel with any straps.


    Typically to increase or decrease toe, you're going to have to turn the sleeves in opposite directions. If the steering wheel is not centered, turn both sleeves equally in the same directions.

    How did it come out? FANTASTIC! I was totally floored at how well my 1st time alignment came out. The car drives great Now I feel that I have learned something that I use to think was a black art. I can try different setting any time I want and know it was done right! I think any body who is doing their own suspension work even just replacing worn parts has the ability to do their own alignment. I hope you enjoyed my post.

    FYI, my alignment specs are 3.5* positive caster, 1 3/8* negative camber and 1/16" toe in. I'm thinking of trying 5* caster. This is a manual steer with a 16:1 box.
    Last edited by Huskinhano; July 24, 2017, 06:22 PM.
    Tom
    Overdrive is overrated


  • tardis454
    Legendary BangShifter
    • Dec 2007
    • 3595

    #2
    Awesome job, thanks for sharing this. I was wondering how I could line up my S-10 suspension without having to go to an alignment shop. This thread answered that question.

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    • Huskinhano
      Legendary BangShifter
      • Dec 2007
      • 5456

      #3
      Thanks! I forgot to say why I wasn't too concerned with the floor being level front to back. The reason is the fact that you level the caster portion with the thumbscrew which cancels out the floor not being level. It only measures the difference between turning 20* to the left and 20* to the right, or caster. I can't stress enough don't be afraid to try this! The new suspension components have really transformed the way my Mustang drives, night and day difference. And the fact that I didn't screw my alignment up still shocks me! The car goes string straight, the steering wheel is centered, I can take my hands off at 60 mph and the car just goes straight. What I also noticed what I was really afraid of with my altered suspension mounting points and other stuff is bump steer which is a problem on these cars and can be made really bad really easy was what seems to be almost no bump steer. I didn't notice any.
      Tom
      Overdrive is overrated


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      • Bob Holmes
        Legendary BangShifter
        • Apr 2011
        • 3549

        #4
        Anyone that can competently turn wrenches, can do a great alignment. It always baffles me when we go to the racetrack and everyone talks about having to go to an alignment shop to get their car dialed in.

        I talked to a buddy of mine who owns a race shop. We were discussing the use of laser alignment equipment. His take was that "its a very accurate way to align an imprecise object." His point being that, unless you have a solid suspension, bushings deflect changing your settings as you drive.
        I'm still learning

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        • SpiderGearsMan
          No Life Outside BangShift.com
          • Oct 2007
          • 22359

          #5
          cool

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          • Russell
            Legendary BangShifter
            • Oct 2009
            • 6496

            #6
            Thanks for the write up. What centers look like? not sure how well it will work with banged up bearing dust covers?
            http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...-consolidation
            1.54, 7.31 @ 94.14, 11.43 @ 118.95

            PB 60' 1.49
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            • milner351
              No Life Outside BangShift.com
              • Nov 2007
              • 16031

              #7
              Great stuff!
              There's always something new to learn.

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              • Huskinhano
                Legendary BangShifter
                • Dec 2007
                • 5456

                #8
                Originally posted by Russell View Post
                Thanks for the write up. What centers look like? not sure how well it will work with banged up bearing dust covers?
                You remove the dust covers. The gauge is magnetic mount on the hub. If for some reason that's a. Issue, get a nut with the same threads as the spindle, weld a flat piece of steel to it and thread that on for your mount.
                Tom
                Overdrive is overrated


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                • tardis454
                  Legendary BangShifter
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 3595

                  #9
                  Will the gauge attach to blank hubs? I'm using 98-05 Blazer 2wd dual piston caliper spindles like these..

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                  • Huskinhano
                    Legendary BangShifter
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 5456

                    #10
                    Originally posted by tardis454 View Post
                    Will the gauge attach to blank hubs? I'm using 98-05 Blazer 2wd dual piston caliper spindles like these..

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                    I believe it will since that's the same area on my hubs that I used, not the actual axle stub. Let me know what the OD is and I'll measure my gauge.
                    Tom
                    Overdrive is overrated


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                    • phitter67
                      Hero BangShifter
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 270

                      #11
                      Those Blazer hubs look like the ones on my 95 Vette. I did both ends of mine last year. I made an adapter to use a digital angle gauge, and checked runout beforehand. Was .1 degree.

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                      • tardis454
                        Legendary BangShifter
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 3595

                        #12
                        Originally posted by phitter67 View Post
                        Those Blazer hubs look like the ones on my 95 Vette. I did both ends of mine last year. I made an adapter to use a digital angle gauge, and checked runout beforehand. Was .1 degree.
                        Those spindles can easily be fitted w/C5 Vette stuff, which is one of the reasons I did the swap in case I need more HP

                        http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversion...w-drawing.html


                        I know I'll have more questions for Huskinhano when alignment time comes..
                        Last edited by tardis454; May 16, 2013, 05:58 PM.

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