351W - which year ?

[Russell]

Changing the plugs with the long tube Mac's is a Cake walk. I have not changed the plugs yet with the shorties. I was saying the pain the the butt is when you have to pull the motor w/ long tubes. (I have had this motor out way to many times.) Replaceing the starter is ruff as well.

All that being said I have no clue what the raised deck height of the 351 will do for header clearance

[DanStokes]

Next time you're over let's take a look at the 'Stang. Those headers are WAY higher and everything is a tight fit. I think the long tubes actually would have been better. Next time.......

Dan

[Beagle]

Dan, I just bought 351 height 1 3/4 BBK long tubes and a shorty h-pipe for Monica's horse with no name. I'll get back with you on how they fit. The automatic may be the sticking point.

Russell - I hear ya - and I am still pretty sure I'd rather unbolt long tubes than deal with the equal lengths, but I'll be putting them back in the 90lx beause.. I have them, and it's supposed to be a daily. Long tubes and off-road h-pipes get more attention than I want. Regular shorties like the stock stuff were a breeze.

For an ultra-tight budget, the Fox shorties might be okay as a starting point. I wonder if they hit anything on a 65 era Mustang/Cougar?

[milner351]

Beags - I hope the BBK's you have are a common flange design - I got a used set of BBK with the flanges for each port seperate from the rest -nightmare - no way they would seal right, ever, tubes heat up and bend and "relocate" the port flange... PITA doesn't begin to describe. From that point forward - no headers for me that don't have a single flange per head that's 3/8" thick.

The P heads make sense if you get an engine with them and they are in good shape, if I was shopping for heads alone - I'd get GT40s, or aluminum if $$ allowed. If you're buying used heads, inspect them very carefully, if the buyer is not willing to let you compress a few springs, pop the locks out and look at the valve seats... walk away - it can cost what the used heads cost at the machine shop to fix them up right - been there, paid that.... more than once. My first set of twisted wedges cost me $600, then cost me $750 for all new valves, guides, and valve job. The edelbrocks on the Falcon engine cost me $600 - and needed the valve tips ground flat again, new seals, and a valve job, $250, plus retainers and locks and springs to match my cam. New heads start making sense real quick unless the buy in is way low.

[Russell]

Unless they come on a car or in a package deal on parts I will never own spaghetti shorties.

[Huskinhano]

For an ultra-tight budget, the Fox shorties might be okay as a starting point. I wonder if they hit anything on a 65 era Mustang/Cougar?

Factory 85 to 93 definitely won't fit, maybe some aftermarket. I did see on the Mustang board I hang out on, a guy had factory 94 headers on his 68. They barely fit though. One tube was just about on the steering box.

[langleylad]

I've been looking into headers for this combo on the Summit site and have found these two . Both are what they call medium length & a 1 5/8 primary tube . JBA , 14g stainless steel ,3/8 flange , $ 615 ouch! and Hedman , 18g steel , ceramic coated , 1/4 flange , $470 . So for $145 more you get a much better header but no ceramic coating . The same JBA piece but with a ceramic coating is $780 ! . Does it really cost $310 to have a set coated ? .