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  • BOSSMAN
    Superhero BangShifter
    • Aug 2011
    • 756

    #241
    Right on the dirt, pretty common practice in my area.
    Nick Smithberg
    www.smithbergracing.com

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    • Beagle
      "Flounder"
      • Apr 2011
      • 13804

      #242
      We do that too and wind up with a ton of busted foundations. The next one I pour will have piers under it and be cable locked. How thick is your slab? I got quoted for a 6" thick 40x60 and it was THE expensive component of the build. The building materials for the shop were less. Ouch.

      Looks great, I'd be chomping at the bit now. Good luck with the patience / sealing it / letting it cure! Are you going to tint it? I've been wanting to paint mine grey like the garage stations I used to work at. Even though I hated cleaning them (EVERY FREAKING DAY) they looked great when they were clean.
      Last edited by Beagle; November 16, 2012, 05:52 AM.
      Flying south, with a flock of bird dogs.

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      • SuperBuickGuy
        No Life Outside BangShift.com
        • Jan 2008
        • 32279

        #243
        that surprises me too - no base or reinforcement? It does look really nice
        Doing it all wrong since 1966

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        • SuperBuickGuy
          No Life Outside BangShift.com
          • Jan 2008
          • 32279

          #244
          Originally posted by Beagle View Post
          We do that too and wind up with a ton of busted foundations. The next one I pour will have piers under it and be cable locked. How thick is your slab? I got quoted for a 6" thick 40x60 and it was THE expensive component of the build. The building materials for the shop were less. Ouch.

          Looks great, I'd be chomping at the bit now. Good luck with the patience / sealing it / letting it cure! Are you going to tint it? I've been wanting to paint mine grey like the garage stations I used to work at. Even though I hated cleaning them (EVERY FREAKING DAY) they looked great when they were clean.
          The concrete was the most expensive part of my shop build.... it's why I'm paving outside rather than concrete landing pads
          Doing it all wrong since 1966

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          • DanStokes
            Ancient LSR Guy
            • Oct 2007
            • 28707

            #245
            My 'crete was about the same as the building cost. But they brought in a TON (actually, several tons) of underlayment. Gravel then sand, all compacted, then a vapor barrier. The concrete has reinforcing mesh and fiberglass in it. So far so good on the crack thing.

            Dan
            Last edited by DanStokes; November 16, 2012, 07:17 AM.

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            • BOSSMAN
              Superhero BangShifter
              • Aug 2011
              • 756

              #246
              It was a SG7 mix with fiber mesh and is 4" thick. We did lay rebar in the fill areas and the ground was compacted well (skid loader had issues digging it up for final grade). My guys are confident and so am I. My equipment is already on a floor they did and haven't had an issues. No tint, just gonna seal.
              Nick Smithberg
              www.smithbergracing.com

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              • Russell
                Legendary BangShifter
                • Oct 2009
                • 6529

                #247
                no wire?
                http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...-consolidation
                1.54, 7.31 @ 94.14, 11.43 @ 118.95

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                • BOSSMAN
                  Superhero BangShifter
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 756

                  #248
                  They tell me its not needed with fiber mesh.
                  Nick Smithberg
                  www.smithbergracing.com

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                  • Grumpy
                    Superhero BangShifter
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 1476

                    #249
                    The Company that came and installed my two post Rotary lift said they needed a minimum of 6 inches to safely anchor it, I knew I'd paid for a 6 inch floor with mesh but I was worried, as it turned out there was over 8 inches in that particular spot.
                    Last edited by Grumpy; November 16, 2012, 10:09 AM.
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                    • BOSSMAN
                      Superhero BangShifter
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 756

                      #250
                      I'm thinking about cutting a couple squares out to do a deep footing for the lift. I've heard of guys mounting the lift to a 4" floor and still be fine. I'm looking into the footing or just limiting the vehicle weight on the lift.
                      Nick Smithberg
                      www.smithbergracing.com

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                      • SuperBuickGuy
                        No Life Outside BangShift.com
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 32279

                        #251
                        I have a lift on a 4" floor - builder simply used a harder concrete said I'd be fine... as he's been doing pole barns since before I was born... I'll take his word for it ( in support of his statement - it hasn't moved at all, but also, I didn't build my building on fill for this very reason.)

                        So far, if it fits, it'll lift - I think the heaviest is my diesel truck - and again, no cracks, no wobble, no worries (now, the first few times I was biting my nails)
                        Last edited by SuperBuickGuy; November 16, 2012, 10:40 AM.
                        Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                        • Russell
                          Legendary BangShifter
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6529

                          #252
                          I wish I has an easy way to tell where the center of gravey of the vehicle was if I knew it was even with the post I would worry alot less. I put my Dodge 2500 Diesel 4x4 extended cab long bed on Dad's two post it on a 4" slab, with wire and stone under. Lived to tell about it.
                          http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...-consolidation
                          1.54, 7.31 @ 94.14, 11.43 @ 118.95

                          PB 60' 1.49
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                          • Beagle
                            "Flounder"
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 13804

                            #253
                            Originally posted by BOSSMAN View Post
                            They tell me its not needed with fiber mesh.
                            sounds right - I'll keep an eye open on this. Did you thicken it up for a mill or bigass lathe? That's where I was interested in the 6" pad.
                            Flying south, with a flock of bird dogs.

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                            • Beagle
                              "Flounder"
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 13804

                              #254
                              Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View Post
                              I have a lift on a 4" floor - builder simply used a harder concrete said I'd be fine... as he's been doing pole barns since before I was born... I'll take his word for it ( in support of his statement - it hasn't moved at all, but also, I didn't build my building on fill for this very reason.)

                              So far, if it fits, it'll lift - I think the heaviest is my diesel truck - and again, no cracks, no wobble, no worries (now, the first few times I was biting my nails)
                              to be clear on why I'm asking - it's not the weight so much as the stability of the machinery and most importantly, the ability of the machinery to shake a pad. I want stability under a big lathe / mill... no shaking allowed.
                              Last edited by Beagle; November 16, 2012, 04:21 PM.
                              Flying south, with a flock of bird dogs.

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                              • Scott Liggett
                                No Life Outside BangShift.com
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 21561

                                #255
                                Concrete floor?! I thought you were gonna rough it with dirt and hay. haha.
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