Speechless,

[SuperBuickGuy]

So that video that Jeep-guys celebrate about the destruction of HMMVs? sabotage.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/10/army-soldier-found-guilty-cutting-straps-sending-humvees-plummeting-from-plane-during-training-exercise.html

[Runner1972]

I don't get it either. Lose your job,pay and jail time for what?

[RockJustRock]

Video reminds me of "Super Paratrooper", a primordial video game for Vic-20 among others. You got points for shooting paratroopers, BONUS points for hitting the parachute and having them drop like stones and go splat! Got banned for violence, Can't find a trace of it on the web, trust me, I LOOKED.

[Barry Donovan]

probably not even a weird circumstance.

maybe coerced as to being part of the training, losing equipment.

the guy laughing accepted it easy enough.

Two of us saved an aircraft from hell more than once...
a retiring colonel came storming to the flightline, we were still catching our lungs and minds back from all the smoke of an apu gone wild...
I got lit real bad by a battery. woke up on my back on the flight line.


"don't you guys ever do that again, let the f****r burn."
something to that effect.
the other side of the see saw was offering us medals.

we saved it at least 3 times, it flew 15 more years...been in the junk yard for 10.
57-1491.
our names are still inside on a plaque.

[Deaf Bob]

Practice or real.. Begs the question: WHY?
Then 2nd question: What is wrong with them??

[Loren]

You could start one of those threads, for Jeeps.

A guy in a trusted position working with fantastically valuable equipment and people's lives commits intentional, insidious sabotage, causes a half-million dollars in direct damage plus disruption and cleanup and all he gets is a reduction in rank and dishonorable discharge??? Gosh, I hope that at-least they were a little rude to him during the process. Laughing-F-word-guy shoulda got a better spanking too.

[SuperBuickGuy]

... and now that guy is out looking for a job in the private sector.... can you imagine having that train wreck working for you or with you?

[silver_bullet]

Just a letter of reprimand for the SFC? I would be suspecting that he may have been in on it as well...but that may have been difficult to prove...proof however in a military court is not really needed...

[SuperBuickGuy]

Just a letter of reprimand for the SFC? I would be suspecting that he may have been in on it as well...but that may have been difficult to prove...proof however in a military court is not really needed...

you have to ask "why would he think to have a camera and be recording that instant?"

[pdub]

you have to ask "why would he think to have a camera and be recording that instant?"

Yeah, the guys on the ground were enjoying that entirely too much.

Millennial soldiers. Ugh.

[RockJustRock]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite

[RockJustRock]

Luddism in the military is very strange. When I was in back in '75 I had to swear my total allegiance to Gerald Ford as my supreme commander. When everything you do and touch is tied to them it is required. As it gets more 9-5 the dissention surfaces. But I remember having to shout "I am nothing more than a hair on Gerald Ford's Ass!".

[Loren]

"I am nothing more than a hair ...

We swear allegiance to the flag, symbol of our republic, not to any individual, ever.

Touchin' on politics again here. Polar-tiks?

Sorry W.M./mod, I'll stop.

[RockJustRock]

Law in the military is by the UCMJ. Uniform Code Of Military Justice. No Constitution. No Bill Of Rights.

[silver_bullet]