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  • JustinSuhas
    Hero BangShifter
    • Nov 2007
    • 321

    #1

    1977 Honda CB750 Cafe Racer



    Here is the 1977 Honda CB750 Cafe racer i am building with my best friend Matt. We worked out an exchange, I help him build his bike and he tutors me in college algebra. Normally i would not do a trade like this but my math skills are terrible. Have you seen the prices of one-on-one tutoring? Ridiculous. So far this trade has worked out perfectly. The bike is making great progress and i passed both of my math classes last semester!

    Help is a funny word to use to describe my involvement with the bike. Matt is a computer guy, i am a car junkie. He is highly interested in computer technology, but also very interested in mechanical technology. He did not grow up in a house of car junkies and didn't have car junkie friends in high school, but he has one now. We spend a good amount of our time sitting around talking about engines, bike planning and daydreaming about ton up runs on the tollway at three in the morning. Matt was recently promoted at his job, thus allowing him the funds to tackle such a project. Something I'm not used to. Funds.

    We have gathered about 70% of the parts from assorted places. Most of the large items have been bought. We're trying to keep a somewhat budget oriented mindset but at no cost to the quality and finish. At one time we entertained heavily the idea of a Rayjay turbo but gave up just because it was a bit much, and we're impatient to ride enough already! We have no idea how many miles are on the engine but we are thinking of having it rebuilt anyways. Perhaps with forged internals, that beehive seat would hold a small bottle perfectly.

    Hopefully i can keep this thread alive with new pics of our weekly progress. Once it is ridable i will try to get video, so stay tuned!

    Here is the bike, as is








    We have no idea how many miles are on the engine but its in pretty good shape externally. Hopefully that applies for the inside as well. I chose this one out of the bunch based on its condition and the fact that it has road rash on the side. Hopefully this means the bike it came from was salvaged due to a wreck not to engine failure.




    Heres Matt's two Honda's


    Last time we worked on it, i built a metal brace to hold the seat. We messed around for about three hours trying to devse a hinge that would allow us the ability to lift open the seat from the side like a briefcase. We finally figured out how to mount the hinge on the inside of the frame rail but it was so hokey and complicated that we trashed it. Tomorrow we are going to hard mount the seat, as it should be on a Cafe Racer anyways.

    It was such a beautiful day that we worked outside. Heres our temporary workbench. Later we couldnt get the torch lit in the wind so we moved it inside.



    I cut out a template of the back of the seat, traced it to wood, and nailed a form to wrap the hot steel rod around to create the horseshoe shape.


    Here i am heating the hollow steel rod we bought from Lowe's amazing metal bin.


    I heated it evenly (mostly) and then bent it into shape. It worked great. Then i fabricated a clamping system and bent the loop ver to create the side supports for the seat. Here i am test fitting the piece


    Once i got the shape down, i cut off the excess and welded in some bracing between the pieces.


    Measure twice, cut once


    Here it is almost done


    Fits great! next time i will be mounting it.


    For those of you who recognize me from my other threads, i will be doing some drawings of this bike. I have one already but its not up to my standards.

    Here's my questions for the forum:

    Is there an easy way to tell the condition of the motor? should i pull the head off and get a good look or use the money in wiser places?

    If i do rebuild, what should we pay? we might do forged internals at that time. Any bike guys know about this stuff?

    Nitrous?

    Hopefully theres enough bike support here that i can get this thing built properly under some good advice. Thanks for reading!

    -Justin Suhas
  • SpeedZealot
    Superhero BangShifter
    • Nov 2007
    • 518

    #2
    Re: 1977 Honda CB750 Cafe Racer

    awesome. A flux core welder is one of the most painful masochistic things a fabricator can due to themselves. Having used one regularly, i have realized this. The work is great, i need to get on the fab skills like that. Keep it up

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    • JustinSuhas
      Hero BangShifter
      • Nov 2007
      • 321

      #3
      Re: 1977 Honda CB750 Cafe Racer

      Yea, everyone rags so hard on the flux core. I think its one of the best purchases ive ever made. Any poor junkies that read this, inexpensive welders rock, just dont expect to win any scholarships on the welds. Some of mine come out decent but mostly i grind and smooth. Ive welded all kinds of crap with that little Lincoln, and it never fails me.

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      • Two Lane Blacktop
        Superhero BangShifter
        • Dec 2007
        • 1166

        #4
        Re: 1977 Honda CB750 Cafe Racer

        ---------------------------Please keep this thread going!-------------------------------------

        Great project!

        The 1970s Honda 750s were/are the "55-56-57 Chevies" of the bike-world
        for many riders. Those affordable bikes put a lot of people on the road,
        & on into the whole Cafe-Scene" with aftermaket mods & custom pieces.

        Those bikes are where a major movement in cycling got its start.

        Love the F1 sound of a crispy 750 winding-up!
        The sound from that engine design makes it
        easy to visualize its "pure mechanicalness".


        Easily one of the most dependable desirable moddable bike-icons of all-time! --- 8)

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        • JustinSuhas
          Hero BangShifter
          • Nov 2007
          • 321

          #5
          Re: 1977 Honda CB750 Cafe Racer

          Originally posted by Two Lane Blacktop
          Love the F1 sound of a crispy 750 winding-up!
          The sound from that engine design makes it
          easy to visualize its "pure mechanicalness".
          I agree completely,

          I've kinda been getting into CB750 history a little bit. Its funny how the strive to out best one another stretches across the motorcycle manufacturers just as it did the car manufactuors during the muscle car wars. Yamaha, Suzuki and Honda all had very similar styling and set-up during those years but Honda got my choice. Theres a guy named Carpy, he has had a huge influence on my taste in Cafes.

          Carpy is an incredible guy with a ton of talent. He's the real deal too, his father rode with the rockers over in Britain and has been on and around Cafes since birth. He custom makes a lot of parts too. The seat on our bike came from him. Funny story too- when he shipped the seat he paid for the shipping with stamps. About half that box was covered in stamps.

          If you havent already seen it before, here is his website


          Here is a bike he built that i love. The rocket four.


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          • JOES66FURY

            #6
            Re: 1977 Honda CB750 Cafe Racer

            I just looked at a 77 CB750 on a lemon lot here in Tucson on Thursday afternoon...1500 bucks and it looks to be in very nice shape. Wife said no...

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            • Two Lane Blacktop
              Superhero BangShifter
              • Dec 2007
              • 1166

              #7
              Re: 1977 Honda CB750 Cafe Racer

              Great illustrations, pics & link!


              Carpy sounds like a British version of Indian Larry (R.I.P.),

              and that is meant as the supreme compliment to a bike-builder.


              Again, thanks & keep us posted often. -- 8)

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              • miketblsr
                Superhero BangShifter
                • Nov 2007
                • 771

                #8
                Re: 1977 Honda CB750 Cafe Racer

                Cool project. I really dig the old bike stuff, non Hardly models anyway. Keep the updates coming.


                Justin thatbike is sweet I like the paint!!!

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                • Scott Liggett
                  No Life Outside BangShift.com
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 21561

                  #9
                  Re: 1977 Honda CB750 Cafe Racer

                  Way to go Justin. I can't remember when I saw a Cafe Racer style bike on the road, and LA is full of classic bikes.
                  BS'er formally known as Rebeldryver

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                  • KeithTurk
                    Moderator
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 5209

                    #10
                    Re: 1977 Honda CB750 Cafe Racer

                    Man I caught this thread without pictures... the bike is Awesome...

                    I've followed the whole ace cafe phenom... and it's interesting... Love the day... the scooters were truly average compared to what your building...

                    Carpy is fairly cool.... But to me his bikes are a little to ... hmmm how do I say this... they just seem to be a bit "in your face" ... not like Real riders bikes... though I'm sure they are... no doubt... He's done a ton of them... and makes money doing them... so he can't be wrong...

                    Somehow that looses something in the translation of "one man and his Bike" Like what you and your freind are doing... which totally adds HUGE value to the picture...

                    Bottom line... I love your story and the bike... Keep doing it... keep reporting on it... and tell us about your grades Tooooo

                    Keith

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                    • KeithTurk
                      Moderator
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 5209

                      #11
                      Re: 1977 Honda CB750 Cafe Racer

                      Oh by the way... the motor is most likely Fine... and frankly doesn't need much to be happy.... I'd stick it in and run it before I did any serious work to it...

                      Couple of reasons really... first because it's a Heavy bike compared to most things out there today and won't handle like the worst late model sport bike... learning that with a somewhat average motor is a great idea rather then the wickedly trick motor that only has X life in it.

                      And secondly because After you ride it ... enjoy it and sort out the basic's of what it is... You really won't need much more performance out of it... If you want hyper trick... go out and buy a 6 yr old sport bike and ride it...

                      For Pure Cool Factor... nothing is going to beat that 750 Honda ...

                      Keith

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                      • min301
                        Legendary BangShifter
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 8552

                        #12
                        Re: 1977 Honda CB750 Cafe Racer

                        Agreed.
                        I actually spent four years road racing bikes, from 88-92. Riding Yamaha's.

                        But, I have a hankerin to do an updated, classic Honda CB750F or 900F.
                        Why, not because they are technically better than anything else, but because they are/were-cool.

                        I think it's a nifty project, another one I'd like to start before too long.

                        Please keep us informed.

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                        • Freiburger
                          Legendary BangShifter
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 5819

                          #13
                          Re: 1977 Honda CB750 Cafe Racer

                          I dig it, too. Please keep photos comin'.

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                          • tonycpe
                            Drives An Automatic
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 16

                            #14
                            Re: 1977 Honda CB750 Cafe Racer

                            I twisted a wrench at a honda dealer from 1969 to 1986. Your bottom end is strong and will take some abuse, don't touch it unless there is a problem. You will need to pin the cam holders thru the top cover or they may pull the threads out of the head. that was the first year for accelerator pumps in the carbs, do not seperate the carbs from the assembly, be careful if you modify the original air box. can't think of anything else right now, cause you've got me thinking back a long time, but i'm sure more will come to me. thanks, tony

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                            • Vette#128
                              Hero BangShifter
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 220

                              #15
                              Re: 1977 Honda CB750 Cafe Racer

                              Justin, this is really outa sight! Thanks for posting that and bringing back a few memories (I only have a few left) I built a cafe racer from a Honda 750 back in 1974. Keep in mind, this was way before today's superBikes, but for back then, it was blindingly fast!!! I had seen pictures of REAL cafe racers in magazines but there were none around back then and of course, parts for cafe mods were pretty much unavailable. So.... I found this used fiberglass drag race body and adapted it to the Honda. It only weighed 15 lbs, and allowed me to remove about 75 lbs of weight from the stock tank, seat fenders, sidecovers, etc. Add pipes, drag bars, a few more goodies, and this bastard is a rocket ship!! Main reason, power-to-weight. I never weighed it, but it was REAL light. The first time I twisted it on. it got up to 120 in a matter of seconds, and my face shield split down the center puting a hell of a gash in my nose.... It was a great ride and I probably would have killed myself on it, but a truck backed over it at work. Oh well, just another one of my demented projects that was fun while it lasted
                              Ed






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