Chad vs. Brian: 1,320 or 1,000 Feet?

[Freiburger]

Re: Chad vs. Brian: 1,320 or 1,000 Feet?

I think they should make the Daytona 500 just 250 miles. It would save money and be safer.

[RyanWalker]

Re: Chad vs. Brian: 1,320 or 1,000 Feet?

I think they should make the Daytona 500 just 250 miles. It would save money and be safer.

No offense, but how does that compare to this? Really.

[Freiburger]

Re: Chad vs. Brian: 1,320 or 1,000 Feet?

There is an element of debate called reductio ad absurdum. Wikipedia descibed it this way: Reductio ad absurdum (Latin for "reduction to the absurd"), also known as an apagogical argument, reductio ad impossibile, or proof by contradiction, is a type of logical argument where one assumes a claim for the sake of argument and derives an absurd or ridiculous outcome, and then concludes that the original claim must have been wrong as it led to an absurd result.

If shortening drag races saves money and ads safety, therefore, reducing the length of other races could do the same. Applying another iconic American standard, the Daytona 500, shows how ridiculous it would be to cut a 500-mile race to 250 miles. Therefore, it's ridiculous to reduce an American iconic 1,320-foot race to a 1,000-foot race.

This intentionally ignores the run-into-the-end-of-the-track issue and amplifies the notion that 1,000 feet simply screws with tradition.

[ksj1]

Re: Chad vs. Brian: 1,320 or 1,000 Feet?

I agree with Vandergriff.http://www.competitionplus.com/index...8612&Itemid=24

[std]

Re: Chad vs. Brian: 1,320 or 1,000 Feet?

Why don't they keep the tracks and change the cars like every other sanctioning body in the world?

[RyanWalker]

Re: Chad vs. Brian: 1,320 or 1,000 Feet?

There is an element of debate called reductio ad absurdum. Wikipedia descibed it this way: Reductio ad absurdum (Latin for "reduction to the absurd"), also known as an apagogical argument, reductio ad impossibile, or proof by contradiction, is a type of logical argument where one assumes a claim for the sake of argument and derives an absurd or ridiculous outcome, and then concludes that the original claim must have been wrong as it led to an absurd result.

If shortening drag races saves money and ads safety, therefore, reducing the length of other races could do the same. Applying another iconic American standard, the Daytona 500, shows how ridiculous it would be to cut a 500-mile race to 250 miles. Therefore, it's ridiculous to reduce an American iconic 1,320-foot race to a 1,000-foot race.

This intentionally ignores the run-into-the-end-of-the-track issue and amplifies the notion that 1,000 feet simply screws with tradition.

Fine excuse my default on the art of debate. Here's the plain truth. Shutdown areas at tons of venues are not what they need to be. Until then, 1,000ft. It makes no sense the other way around, tradition, please, these cars are nearly going 340mph.

[RyanWalker]

Re: Chad vs. Brian: 1,320 or 1,000 Feet?

Why don't they keep the tracks and change the cars like every other sanctioning body in the world?

That's chickenshit. It's an unlimited class, as it should be. Fix the track, not the car.

[Freiburger]

Re: Chad vs. Brian: 1,320 or 1,000 Feet?

Why don't they keep the tracks and change the cars like every other sanctioning body in the world?

That's chickenshit. It's an unlimited class, as it should be. Fix the track, not the car.

An unlimited class? There's a CI limit, tire limit, weight limit, fuel limit, wheelbase limit, wing limits, supercharger limits...

[std]

Re: Chad vs. Brian: 1,320 or 1,000 Feet?

Why don't they keep the tracks and change the cars like every other sanctioning body in the world?

That's chickenshit. It's an unlimited class, as it should be. Fix the track, not the car.

An unlimited class? There's a CI limit, tire limit, weight limit, fuel limit, wheelbase limit, wing limits, supercharger limits...

And all of them could be tweaked to slow dow the cars a little.
The tracks need constant safety upgrades, but the cars don't need to be that fast. The racing will still be good because you still have to drive the car.

[Brian Lohnes]

Re: Chad vs. Brian: 1,320 or 1,000 Feet?

Hey Boss...which "tradition" we following?

The only true tradition in drag racing has been constant evolution and change. How is this different.


Brian

[ksj1]

Re: Chad vs. Brian: 1,320 or 1,000 Feet?

Dallas did upgrades to the sand pit this year but the scoreboards still sit too close to the track.Sure seemed to be more oildowns from about Indy on.Crewchiefs just shortened the wick. TAD and TAFC have had some problems with shutdown areas but it seems its not being addressed.Just make TF and FC an index class ;D Can you imagine them trying to fender race or hit the binders ;D Id love it to stay 1320 but if it changes I guess I'll adjust.

[RyanWalker]

Re: Chad vs. Brian: 1,320 or 1,000 Feet?

Why don't they keep the tracks and change the cars like every other sanctioning body in the world?

That's chickenshit. It's an unlimited class, as it should be. Fix the track, not the car.

An unlimited class? There's a CI limit, tire limit, weight limit, fuel limit, wheelbase limit, wing limits, supercharger limits...

I stand corrected. It is not an unlimited class. My point should have have been, shall we water the car down or fix the track ?

[std]

Re: Chad vs. Brian: 1,320 or 1,000 Feet?

What do you mean by "fix the track"?

[RyanWalker]

Re: Chad vs. Brian: 1,320 or 1,000 Feet?

What do you mean by "fix the track"?

Giving them a much longer shutdown area. Some tracks sand pits are about the size of large bunkers on golf courses.

[Podium Finish]

Re: Chad vs. Brian: 1,320 or 1,000 Feet?

Dallas did upgrades to the sand pit this year but the scoreboards still sit too close to the track.Sure seemed to be more oildowns from about Indy on.Crewchiefs just shortened the wick. TAD and TAFC have had some problems with shutdown areas but it seems its not being addressed.Just make TF and FC an index class ;D Can you imagine them trying to fender race or hit the binders ;D Id love it to stay 1320 but if it changes I guess I'll adjust.

I have heard that BS phrase about "shortened wicks", but tell me what tune up are you referring to? Do you really think there is a 1000 foot tune-up, and 1/8 mile tune up, a 1320 tune-up, the only difference is that the last 320 feet of the 1320 would bring on the rev-retard and multi K-Booms, ask Austin Coil. By saying "Crewchiefs just shortened the wick" is without any fact unless the reason was to blow up a nitro engine in a specific time frame or a certain length, and neither are true. Shorten the wick, my ass.

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