Here's one for the Ford purists. Fox mustang meets 500 Cadillac

[Shawn Anderson]

Re: Here's one for the Ford purists. Fox mustang meets 500 Cadillac

I am a ford guy, and I think this is damn cool. Why is it that if this was a SBC instead of a caddy it would bug me? Evan then better to have a chevy motor than just rotting away. Cool car!

[STINEY]

Thanks guys, its been a fun little project so far. The looks on the guys who have seen it in my shop have already been worth it, trying to figure out what it is.... ;)

One was sharp enough to say he didn't recall Milodon building pans for 500s. I just smiled and said they didn't make very many.




Modified for manual brakes while I was in behind the dash.
Move the pin for the pushrod up about 2.5" and weld the old hole shut for strength. Mount the pedal in the lower hole. Make a new pushrod from the ends of the 2 old ones (one from pedal & one from booster)





Fabbed engine mount that bolts to the factory sway bar mount tabs.





Engine all cleaned up.





Ready to drop it in.



Like Ragu, its in there!





Plenty of room for factory RWD manifolds.



Headers are definitely possible as the space is there, but there is nothing Off-the-shelf for this combination. I am working with 460 van headers but they need lots of rework.



Firewall space is close but no modifications needed.



And a couple of views from underneath.





Found a radiator on ebay. Its a dual-pass which will help cool but more importantly has the inlets and outlets on the correct sides to match the 500 Cadillac.



Radiator trial fit . My oldest asked if I was going to the barn, when I said yes he asked if he could help. I'm on cloud nine....



Radiator fits nicely,



Now to mount the fan. HHR fan fits great and is $50ish new, not to mention has a good history of cooling built 460 Fords in Ranger bodies.

[milner351]

Re: Here's one for the Ford purists. Fox mustang meets 500 Cadillac

Nice - I love stuff on the cheap.

So - are you going to put something sick into the bug too?

[STINEY]

The bug....hmmmm. Try this link, its more of a off-road restoration/modification type of "thing". It may get the 2165 Weber engine from the sandrail when its done, or old reliable, the 1641 Kadron engine.

I have too many projects!

http://www.bangshift.com/forum/showt...ght=poor+thing

[squirrel]

Re: Here's one for the Ford purists. Fox mustang meets 500 Cadillac

I wonder if you could cut the engine end off a set of 460 swap headers and adapt them to the caddy flanges?

(assuming you can buy 460 headers for those mustangs)

[min301]

Re: Here's one for the Ford purists. Fox mustang meets 500 Cadillac

You can.

[fast Ed]

Re: Here's one for the Ford purists. Fox mustang meets 500 Cadillac

Most people looking at it will probably assume it's a 460 anyway, until you tell them!!

Cool swap, I'd hit it. ;D


cheers
Ed N.

[STINEY]

Checked that one already. Deck height is different, they need to drop lower in order to go UNDER the floor, not INTO it. (this was with 460 VAN headers)


Fox 460 swap headers hang way too low with the 500, and the drivers side puts the engine WAY too forward. Passenger side seems good, but the driver side is a complete redo....

[AFFORDILLAC]

Re: Here's one for the Ford purists. Fox mustang meets 500 Cadillac

I love the way your documenting the whole gig STINEY!
Tru Junkie style is by far the most fun.

The Fox/Cad is a proven performer.... ;D


Cadillac crest and all.

[STINEY]

Hey Affordillac, glad to see you made it to the new junkie site!

Guys, if you don't recognize the black car in that picture, you need to check your old back issues of HotRod.

'04 or '05 Pump Gas Drags I believe, eventually got the car into the 9's with stock Cadillac bottom end and a carefully planned addition of Nitrous.

One of the greatest budget hot rods IMO, and could be driven anywhere too.

[Screaming Detroit]

Re: Here's one for the Ford purists. Fox mustang meets 500 Cadillac

Alittle off topic here but is that a early bronco sitting there on the right covered in snow?

[Screaming Detroit]

Re: Here's one for the Ford purists. Fox mustang meets 500 Cadillac

I bet that swing is awesome ;D

[SpiderGearsMan]

Re: Here's one for the Ford purists. Fox mustang meets 500 Cadillac

what are you planning for the step -van ?
my second favorite body style - the P VAN !!!

[STINEY]

Re: Here's one for the Ford purists. Fox mustang meets 500 Cadillac

Right now, its a "storage-building" for the green sandrail.

It's fun in its own right. Retired WonderBread route truck, stripped the racks out, turned up the fuel on the Cummins 4BT and drove it for a couple summers. Moved lots of stuff, had lots of fun hearing that turbo work! Its a '79 E-350 chassis with a Grumman body on it. Needs different gearing though, the 5.14 leaves it somewhat "gear-bound" on the top end.

My 5 year-old loves it though. When he rides in it, I have to laugh out loud as he goes "teen-wolfin'" in the back. Quite a hoot....

[DanStokes]

Re: Here's one for the Ford purists. Fox mustang meets 500 Cadillac

Although I went with a 5.8 in mine, I LOVE the Cad-in-a-Stang. Stangillac? Cadstang? Muscillac? Wish I'd thought of it. BTW - Cadillac Heaven is very close to me (Leland, NC) - I can check stuff out for you if you need me to.

Later
Dan