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  • quick 52
    Superhero BangShifter
    • Feb 2012
    • 1579

    #1

    cams

    has anyone used comps new 4 pattern cam
    Drag week 2009 Quickest street rod
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  • TC
    Banned
    • Nov 2007
    • 11805

    #2
    Originally posted by quick 52 View Post
    has anyone used comps new 4 pattern cam
    They say they're worth 20hp, the tech comes form Nascar, run different specs for the outside cylinders since the runners are longer, it was interesting reading when I researched it.......

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    • Barry Donovan
      No Life Outside BangShift.com
      • Jul 2009
      • 16928

      #3
      I love the thought of them.
      I run a boxer with two rubber timing belts, one on each cam.

      when one does one thing, and the other does its own thing..

      9k rpm..back to a smooth idle.

      big lesson there for the v8 to have someone make them. No such thing as centered in a rotation from linear...

      its abit like porsche making a 68 degree v10. advance hard built in. It is that confusing to think of the cam.
      Last edited by Barry Donovan; March 8, 2013, 11:18 PM.
      Previously boxer3main
      the death rate and fairy tales cannot kill the nature left behind.

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      • SuperBuickGuy
        No Life Outside BangShift.com
        • Jan 2008
        • 32255

        #4
        Originally posted by TC View Post
        They say they're worth 20hp, the tech comes form Nascar, run different specs for the outside cylinders since the runners are longer, it was interesting reading when I researched it.......
        are there caveats? CR requirements? etc...?
        Doing it all wrong since 1966

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        • TC
          Banned
          • Nov 2007
          • 11805

          #5
          Originally posted by SuperBuickGuy View Post
          are there caveats? CR requirements? etc...?
          Nothing I read said to run different CR on those cylinders, it was more about how far the charge has to travel, so they keep the valves on the outside cylinders open longer to compensate...... I bet the guys that win at the EMC use cams like this.........

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          • Aircooled
            Superhero BangShifter
            • Nov 2007
            • 981

            #6
            If I were to guess, I'd say that maybe the 20hp gain only applies to engines with high rise intakes, single 4 bbl and restrictor plate and that operate at a continuous 8,000 rpm.

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            • TC
              Banned
              • Nov 2007
              • 11805

              #7
              Originally posted by Aircooled View Post
              If I were to guess, I'd say that maybe the 20hp gain only applies to engines with high rise intakes, single 4 bbl and restrictor plate and that operate at a continuous 8,000 rpm.
              And I'd have to agree with you... I understand the logic behind it and they have test data to back it up, but for the average everyday guy building a street cruiser it's probably not worth it....... Though for the guy doing the max effort deal, it's something to look at....

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              • JeffMcKC
                Legendary BangShifter
                • Oct 2007
                • 7024

                #8
                Its nothing new Mike Jones has been doing them for a long time.

                With what we do ( our level) its a gimmick, unless you have perfected your Carb, Spacer Flow, Intake Flow then bolted to the head, and Head flow dynamically how are you going to balance the camshaft to that with the Data we can give them?
                2007 SBN/A Drag Week Winner & First only SBN/A Car in the 9's Till 2012
                First to run in the .90s .80s and .70's in SBN/A
                2012 SSBN/A Drag Week Winner First in the 9.60's/ 9.67 @ 139 1.42 60'
                2013 SSBN/A Drag Week, Lets quit sand bagging, and let it rip!

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                • dave storlien
                  Drives An Automatic
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 35

                  #9
                  OK its a great idea but lets try to fix a BB chev

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                  • DanStokes
                    Ancient LSR Guy
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 28683

                    #10
                    Dave - Do you have any ideas about Diesel cams? At some point I'm wondering if the cam would be a useful modification to m M-B. As a reminder, I'm putting a M-B OM617 into an S-10 for Land Speed Racing - race only, no road miles. You hear that folks put performance cams in them but no word on specs, etc.

                    Dan

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                    • dave storlien
                      Drives An Automatic
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 35

                      #11
                      Dan
                      never have worked with diesels, could be interesting , who grinds cam,s for them

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                      • DanStokes
                        Ancient LSR Guy
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 28683

                        #12
                        Not sure. Delta in Tacoma WA is my go-to cam grinder and if I send them a core they'll grind about any pattern on about any core. But I'd need to send them specs as I doubt they'll have any info or experience on Diesel profiles. I'll keep prowling the M-B forums for info.

                        Dan

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                        • TC
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 11805

                          #13
                          Dan do you know about the ADLA adjustments and the rack limiter adjustment??
                          Last edited by TC; March 10, 2013, 11:14 AM.

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                          • DanStokes
                            Ancient LSR Guy
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 28683

                            #14
                            Only that they exist. Folks on the M-B forums throw terms around like everyone knows the jargon but I sure don't. I thought ALDA played Hawkeye on M.A.S.H.

                            I was thinking the pump probably needed freshening up anyhow. The engine has at least 202K miles - the odo showed 202,000 and the PO said that the odo cable broke just after he got the car. Not likely as the trans seems to have an electronic speedo. Still, at those miles I'm thinking a good cleaning, new seals, and some tweeking are likely in order anyhow. Am I wrong on this?

                            Rather than hijack someone else's post how about posting the answer on my build thread?

                            Dan
                            Last edited by DanStokes; March 10, 2013, 01:47 PM.

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                            • Huskinhano
                              Legendary BangShifter
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 5456

                              #15
                              I believe Ed Winfield did this with the Ford flathead. I read he would grind the lobes based on each cylinder.
                              Tom
                              Overdrive is overrated


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