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Installing Front Coil Spring Into A Bare Frame
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cut 4 4"x4" squares out of 3/8ths plate cut 2 pieces of thick wall tubing .120 wall bout 8" long. sandwich each piece of tubing with a plate on each end, place in spring pockets of frame and lower control arm, still roll around frame, assemble truck and then install coil springs after you have the engine in place for the added weight to properly install the springs without a spring compressor and seat themCharles W - BS Photographer at large
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If your not going to use the tool that is made for doing it right, and have to be a hillbilly about it, move the frame so it is under the garage door opening, take a 4x4 or 4x6 piece of wood and brace it between the top of the garage door opening and the frame, put the jack under the A-arm, install spring, the 4x4 will prevent the frame from moving up while jacking...... You think it's crazy??, probably just as crazy as the rest of the ideas here.......
IMO man up use the tool I posted, it's what it's made for....... Though I suggest you use a hose clamp and clamp it around the spring next to the arm on the tool so it doesn't slip.... It only happened to me once, but it was in my hands while I was putting it in the car when it let go.... Luckily it just chunked a small piece of meat out of my finger..........Last edited by TC; September 16, 2012, 12:21 PM.
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I made this spring compressor for my Mustang, similar to what squirrel suggested. I realize my Mustang is different but maybe you can take something from it. I used the spring perch for the bottom part of the compressor. I used an foot off and old shock to bolt it to the perch.
I used a wheel bearing to reduce friction and the lock nut because the 5/8 nut was touching both races.
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Here's what I did....
DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME. Unless you are like me and don't really care. lol
Great success. Fox springs are well known for being rather difficult to get in. Regular inside-spring spring compressors have a tendency to get stuck inside the spring after installation, so I decided to take an unorthodox approach.
Say hello to the hydraulic press and bailing wire method.
Took me five tries to get the right spring height to slip in effortlessly. (with one failure due to only making 3 loops with the wire - yikes!)
Spring sitting in place without any troubles.
Once in place and with the strut bolted in, I cut the wire and removed it. I buttoned it all back up and put it on the ground.
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Originally posted by TC View PostIf your not going to use the tool that is made for doing it right, and have to be a hillbilly about it, move the frame so it is under the garage door opening, take a 4x4 or 4x6 piece of wood and brace it between the top of the garage door opening and the frame, put the jack under the A-arm, install spring, the 4x4 will prevent the frame from moving up while jacking...... You think it's crazy??, probably just as crazy as the rest of the ideas here.......
IMO man up use the tool I posted, it's what it's made for....... Though I suggest you use a hose clamp and clamp it around the spring next to the arm on the tool so it doesn't slip.... It only happened to me once, but it was in my hands while I was putting it in the car when it let go.... Luckily it just chunked a small piece of meat out of my finger..........Originally posted by TC View PostI never had a problem with mine........ And I have used it many many many many times........
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Originally posted by anotheridiot View PostWhich is it then? I would definitely rather have a grade 8 or above threaded rod holding everything in place than a worm drive hose clamp.
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Originally posted by TC View PostI was saying I never had a problem removing it from the spring after it was installed, not that I didn't have one that slipped on me, and that might have been operator error...... by the way I spin the bolt using a 1/2 impact, never had a bolt break...... Though I'm sure the bolt is stronger than grade 8.........."First I believe if you keep the RPM's high enough, ANYTHING is possible." PeeWee
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Originally posted by PatricksDad View PostWhat comes after Grade 8 that doesn't go into space? I really don't know.Last edited by TC; September 18, 2012, 09:07 PM.
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Originally posted by TC View PostMost of the ARP product lines are stronger than Grade 8. I also think the hardened bolts that are black in color are stronger, but don't quote me on that...........
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structural bolts marked with A325 have a minimum Rockwell hardness of C24 and minimum tensile strength of 120,000 psi. 1 1/4" dia. bolts have a minimum Rockwell hardness of C19 and minimum tensile strength of 105,000 psi. Grade 9 bolts have tensile strength of 180,000 psi, where grade 8 is 150,000 psi. I mentioned Acme threaded rods, which are more like lead screws with square threads instead of pointed threads which will be much stronger and not strip out. They are at 125,000 psi and are a much wider thread so less turns will get the spring compressed, only being 5 to 8 threads per inch. You get a 3' piece of it for around 40 bucks, a couple pieces of unistrut or old angle and a couple nuts get the job done and will not just take up space in the tool box and you give one to a friend.
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as far as the black, yes, hardening will blacken the threads, but so will black oxide on overseas crapl Take your lessons from NHRA when some einstein thought using hardened chrome molly tubing would be better and John Forces cage ripped off his car and almost delegged him. Harder means more brittle, so when you are dealing with something that is moving, sliding or twisting, hardened bolts will break faster where softer will bend.
Great call with the use the soft stuff 4 times and get another piece. It will bend but not break.
And before titanium is brought up, its as strong as steel, not hardened steel, like grade 5 steel, its just as light as aluminum.
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