What's the Worst Tech Advice You've seen in a Magazine?

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  • Loren
    Here, Instead of Getting Precious Sleep
    • Jul 2008
    • 5313

    #16
    Along with the various jackstand comments, I'd like to add one little story about a freind who had his El Camino on jackstands on a concrete driveway with everything safe and kosher. He was undoing rear suspension bolts to change bushings and the things wouldn't loosen, so he was pulling harder and harder on the wrench. Finally at one point, the whole car started moving on him. It took a second of "wtf" but then to his horror he realized that the jackstands were all about to TIP OVER, he was pulling so hard. He let go of the wrench and fortunately it all settled back down straight. That would have been the end of him because of a stupid driveway accident, and it really freaked him out. The lesson I guess is to brace yourself against the car and not the ground when you have to put that kind of force into something that is supported in the air in any way.

    Originally posted by Scott Liggett View Post
    Loren, you really shouldn't have told me where I can get another spare A833OD trans. Nope, you shouldn't have.
    So, if I see any particular black Impalas lurking around the neighborhood, I'd better go out and hide my A833... Actually the 4wd version has a big iron adaptor section to the transfer case instead of a tailshaft housing and I can't say if the tailshaft itself is the same. I'm hoping to use that trans behind the Chevy straight-six I picked up when CarJunkie closed shop, in a '63 Wagoneer that it woud be nice to cross the country in some day. You know, a while back I went calling on a couple local transmission shops looking for another one and they said they hadn't seen one of those A833ODs in years, they were an oddball back when and practically impossible to find now.

    Back to magazine mistakes, which as Boxer indicates are really pretty rare thankfully as I guess info is looked over plenty before it makes it to print. Another favorite of mine was when the tech editor of a major title stated that one of the benefits of using a 1.6 rocker ratio over a 1.5 was that lifter loading on the camshaft was reduced because of the better ratio. Huh? Plenty of people wrote in and apparently convinced him otherwise, in those days he seemed to make such an error about every other issue.

    I went on one of their tour things with the same guy where another writer had a Falcon with a large plastic fan that had four fastening screws going into it from the back, which stripped out to leave it hanging. I got involved in the repair and noticed the holes went all the way through the unit so I suggested just turning the fan around and screwing into it from the other side. I was the fool of the evening for offering such a plan, as the editor and the writer both believed with all their hearts that if you turned the fan around like that, it would then blow backwards. What? Look down on one of the blades from directly above, now imagine what would happen if you turned it 180. It'll be angled the same direction...it will not blow BACKWARDS, the pitch is the pitch! They actually set out from San Luis Obispo CA to Los Angeles the next day, in traffic, with no fan at all rather than just turn it around and risk having it blow backwards. I don't know how they did but to say I was a little miffed at the basic lack of understanding of mechanical things displayed there would be an understatement.

    Anyhow, to anyone who is willing to step up and get dirty and try something then write about it, cheer up if I'm here picking on you a little bit as we know that you guys who are actually working on cars make for a more interesting read (and direct link to the subject) than the ones who seem to do a little task here and there and just farm the rest out with a description and credit. Boo-boos and all...hey, better you make 'em than me!
    Last edited by Loren; August 28, 2012, 07:25 AM.
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    • Deaf Bob
      No Life Outside BangShift.com
      • Feb 2012
      • 19255

      #17
      Originally posted by DanStokes View Post
      Our local Pick-A-Part welds a rim that's flat on the ground to one on edge (an upside-down "T) and puts 4 under each car after carefully jacking the car up - with a forklift. I think it's sort of standard Pick-a-Part procedure. Anyhow, they're really stable and I'm OK with crawling under there. They give the elevated car a preliminary shake by gently caressing it with the forklift. Just to be sure, I shake any car I'm thinking of going under. In fact, I shake a car on the hoist once I get the wheels just off the ground.

      A couple tons of airborne car is nothin' to mess with.

      Dan
      I welded several day's worth... Pickup box after pickup box ... Pretty mind numbing...

      Bad part is if there is a slant and all the uppers point the same way, they can slide off...
      We have about 6, I think, here at our home shop.. Work good under axles, either under the car or just changing center sections before going back under the car..

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      • FINNEGAN
        Winner 2019 Drag Week Gasser A/Gas
        • Aug 2011
        • 116

        #18
        Originally posted by Loren View Post
        I do like the new style of Hot Rod Magazine. It's looking like they're willing to spend a little more of that money they collect from the ad pages, on the editorial pages. My only question after the last issue (which I loved) was whether they'd be able to keep it up for the next. So far so good.

        Finnegan is a real asset to the mag I believe, but he's been on my radar for small boo-boos. This month a freind's accident inspired him to put on a pair of leather gloves while using a band saw, in the quest of caution (pp. 12), and there was a comment about A833 overdrives, which were "found in early-'80s GM two-wheel-drive trucks.

        That trans was also found in GM 4wd's (there's one in my back yard) and some Dodges as well, although I guess he didn't actually exclude them. And, uh, do NOT wear leather gloves while bandsawing, or using any other power tool which has any liklihood of grabbing the glove and pulling your hand into it. That is general knowledge in the mfg. trades but here's a link: http://www.forrestmfg.com/wear-glove...-a-bandsaw.php

        Since we have magazine columns in Hot Rod for exposing internet lies and bad advice (pp 127, 145) maybe there should be one going the other way...
        Thanks for the kudos, Loren. I'm not a professional fabricator, but after 22 years of working on cars I still have all my digits. It's only my opinion but I have to respectfully disagree about the use of leather gloves around a bandsaw, though. When using a drill press, mill, lathe, or anything that spins at high speed with great torque and could wrap my hands and arms up in it, no way would I wear gloves.

        But I do prefer to wear tight-fitting leather gloves when using a vertical bandsaw. And yes, I did take shop in high school and am aware of the safety standards.

        As for the transmission mention in the mag...I can't recall writing about an A833. What page was that on?
        -Finnegan

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        • Pumpkin
          Legendary BangShifter
          • Oct 2007
          • 6600

          #19
          Originally posted by FINNEGAN View Post

          As for the transmission mention in the mag...I can't recall writing about an A833. What page was that on?
          -Finnegan
          Mike, I don't think that was aimed at you, but just another example. Page 92 is the write up.
          "Somewhere the zebra is dancing". Garth Stein's The art of racing in the rain.

          Matt

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          • Scott Liggett
            No Life Outside BangShift.com
            • Oct 2007
            • 21561

            #20
            Originally posted by Loren View Post


            So, if I see any particular black Impalas lurking around the neighborhood, I'd better go out and hide my A833... Actually the 4wd version has a big iron adaptor section to the transfer case instead of a tailshaft housing and I can't say if the tailshaft itself is the same. I'm hoping to use that trans behind the Chevy straight-six I picked up when CarJunkie closed shop, in a '63 Wagoneer that it woud be nice to cross the country in some day. You know, a while back I went calling on a couple local transmission shops looking for another one and they said they hadn't seen one of those A833ODs in years, they were an oddball back when and practically impossible to find now.
            I can still get parts for the them pretty easily. I got new bearings and gaskets for one at a local trans parts supplier, AA Gear. They are in the crappy part of downtown where you are dodging semi's on narrow screwed up streets.

            The option code MY6 and that helps with some shops.
            BS'er formally known as Rebeldryver

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            • LORENSWIFE
              Superhero BangShifter
              • Jan 2011
              • 2531

              #21
              Originally posted by Scott Liggett View Post
              Loren, you really shouldn't have told me where I can get another spare A833OD trans. Nope, you shouldn't have.
              Loren will be featured on an upcoming episode of hoarders....
              That awkward moment when you realize it IS your circus and those ARE your monkeys!

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              • Loren
                Here, Instead of Getting Precious Sleep
                • Jul 2008
                • 5313

                #22
                Originally posted by LORENSWIFE View Post
                Loren will be featured on an upcoming episode of hoarders....
                I didn't even have to apply for it. They found me on Google Earth.



                Originally posted by FINNEGAN View Post
                As for the transmission mention in the mag...I can't recall writing about an A833. What page was that on?
                -Finnegan
                Yeah, it wasn't clear to me who wrote it and I in turn wasn't clear about that. Page 92.

                Again, Hot Rod is showing that they've got the best in the business working there...never mind guys like me poking at you...
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                • FINNEGAN
                  Winner 2019 Drag Week Gasser A/Gas
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 116

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Loren View Post
                  I didn't even have to apply for it. They found me on Google Earth.





                  Yeah, it wasn't clear to me who wrote it and I in turn wasn't clear about that. Page 92.

                  Again, Hot Rod is showing that they've got the best in the business working there...never mind guys like me poking at you...
                  no worries. If i scew up I'd like to know so I don't repeat the mistake.

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                  • Brian Lohnes
                    Administrator
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 18784

                    #24
                    Careful Mike....Loren is a Dodge conversion van enthusiast and he watched that episode of Roadkill. If he walks up and asks if a rag smells like chloroform DO NOT smell it.

                    That which you manifest is before you.

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                    • LORENSWIFE
                      Superhero BangShifter
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 2531

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Brian Lohnes View Post
                      Careful Mike....Loren is a Dodge conversion van enthusiast and he watched that episode of Roadkill. If he walks up and asks if a rag smells like chloroform DO NOT smell it.


                      True!
                      I learned the hard way!
                      That awkward moment when you realize it IS your circus and those ARE your monkeys!

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                      • Loren
                        Here, Instead of Getting Precious Sleep
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 5313

                        #26
                        Honey...how you lost your virtue was supposed to be our little secret...
                        ...

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                        • FINNEGAN
                          Winner 2019 Drag Week Gasser A/Gas
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 116

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Brian Lohnes View Post
                          Careful Mike....Loren is a Dodge conversion van enthusiast and he watched that episode of Roadkill. If he walks up and asks if a rag smells like chloroform DO NOT smell it.

                          Never met anyone that admitted to being a conversion van fan.

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                          • oldsman496
                            Superhero BangShifter
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 3142

                            #28
                            that's a secret? Gee. its the only way i know to get chicks......wait... did i just post that?
                            Mike in Southwest Ohio

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                            • squirrel
                              Benevolent Ruler of the Universe
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 19334

                              #29
                              Originally posted by FINNEGAN View Post
                              Never met anyone that admitted to being a conversion van fan.
                              You wouldn't, where you work.
                              My fabulous web page

                              "If it don't go, chrome it!" --Stroker McGurk

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                              • DanStokes
                                Ancient LSR Guy
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 28680

                                #30
                                Mike - Welcome to the craziness.

                                BTW - were you the guy from HRM taking pics of the Hot Rod Top Speed Of The Meet trophy at the Impound trailer at Speed Week? Whoever that was, he was WORKING so I didn't take time for introductions but I was sitting in the trailer waiting for my next "customer".

                                Dan

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