AFR Composite Intakes.......

[Bamfster]

Just a matter of time until some Chinese makes a $19.95 copy of this intake, made from melted recycled babydoll heads...

Now that right there is funny .... I don't care who ya are!

[anotheridiot]

there is a performance advantage of not transferring heat up to the carburetor on an N/A engine. Thats why the LS engines are closed on the top of the valley to keep a cooler charge. Adding any heat from the turbo is what you have to study. If you are gonna bring heat from the top, I would assume the savings of heat from below would be negated. I guess if your turbo's were plastic I would trust a plastic manifold, but dont know how many pieces that could end up in with the boost you plan to run.

[A/Fuel]

I would like to make one, or have one made. I bet I could sell everyone.

[JeffMcKC]

I would not run one on a Boosted engine or with spray, they have already had issues with them on N/A engines and are trying to make good. They did not invent this by any means, Wilson had one a long time ago and never released it, Gabby said they gave up because of quality control issues. They out flow a unported intake, they DO NOT OUT FLOW A PORTED ONE and they are comparing it to small intakes when that is said. They also have fuel boundary layer issues. If you decide to go EFI later then it’s another intake also. There are a lot of better choices for intakes than that one for many reasons Dry air flow is a sales tool not much more is shown by it.

[A/Fuel]

All I would be intrested in would be the cooling effects. I wonder if you could get one in a different color, black seems to soak up heat but white would be a pain to keep clean. White would be fine if you could just hose it off with some brake cleaner or something.

[TC]

All I would be intrested in would be the cooling effects. I wonder if you could get one in a different color, black seems to soak up heat but white would be a pain to keep clean. White would be fine if you could just hose it off with some brake cleaner or something.

That's what I was thinking, even though the motor will have intercoolers, there is that last little bit of heat soak that happens as the charge flows through the intake, though this could be good or it could be bad, as the intake charge does need to be at a certain temp entering the cylinder to promote a good combustion, so depending on how well the intercoolers cool the charge, might determine which manifold to use......

As for Boost, AFR has tested this manifold to 200psi without failure.......... I know Joe Sherman over at SpeedTalk had a lot of good to say about it........

And just to get another opinion, what's your take on the Holley Strip Dominator I have, Good, Bad??

[A/Fuel]

I'd like to make.....(alright, this would probably be skill level 3 for me) or have made a carbonfiber injector too.
I would think the little rubber silicone pieces hose clamped to the pipe would come off before the intake came apart. I don't know about a back fire though. It would probably hurt more than just an intake anyway.

[anotheridiot]

I know there is some history, mainly the dodge / mistubishi 2.7 in an 01 stratus we have is all plastic, but the fuel is at the base with the injectors, not coming thru the plastic manifold. They have bosses for injectors at the head so just air would come thru there, but I dont know how much of their 10 years of using them have to do when there is fuel involved.

[JeffMcKC]

TC 200 lbs is nothing on a Backfire. On second thought TC get one.

[dieselgeek]

That's what I was thinking, even though the motor will have intercoolers, there is that last little bit of heat soak that happens as the charge flows through the intake, though this could be good or it could be bad, as the intake charge does need to be at a certain temp entering the cylinder to promote a good combustion, so depending on how well the intercoolers cool the charge, might determine which manifold to use......

How do you know any of this, out of curiosity? was it printed in CarCraft somewhere? You might want to talk to people who work on running, gas burning engines about inlet temps, what's possible with an intercooler (water or air), etc.

As for Boost, AFR has tested this manifold to 200psi without failure.......... I know Joe Sherman over at SpeedTalk had a lot of good to say about it........

Joe Sherman also claims you can gain 100hp by running a certain brand of spark plug wires.