Horse with no name - 1987 Mustang GT

[1badmonkey]

do you already own the 275-60-15 drag radials?

[Beagle]

Not yet, but I have a couple of 275-60x15 off an old F150 I was going to test fit with. Checked the axle code today, 3.27. Pity they won't stay in there, they'd work good with a big block/c6.

[Beagle]

I gave this some thought and realized I was being too narrow and Tire Rack doesn't carry everything. A 3.73 gear, 27" tire will put me where I want to be from a gearing standpoint and I think a 255-60x15 will work on a 7" rim and still be enough tire.

Discount can order Mickey Thompson's, I'm calling them in a few. Any feedback on these? I think it will mean losing the quad shocks...

MICKEY THOMPSON COMPOUND SELECTION CHART

Medium--------------------------------------------------------Soft
R2

R2 - Special Compound for ET Street Radial.

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Part: MT3756R Size: P255/60R15 Lettering: Serv Desc: Weight: 30 Max Load: Approved Rims: 7.0-9.0 Measuring Rim: 7.5 Sidewall Width: Tread Width: 9 Overall Diameter: 27.1 Suggested Tube: Compound: R2 Circumference: 85 Tread Depth: Size Equivalent: 27 X 10.50R15

[1badmonkey]

^^^^^^

this is the reason i asked ya if you already owned the 275's.... the 255 is the same tire that is going on the Falcon with 7" wheels.

summit has them for 207, but 21 bucks for ship/handle shipped to Denton(thought i read you were semi close to there)

[Beagle]

Thanks, that may have got me thinking about it last night...

I called Discount a few minutes ago, also the transmission folks and followed up in email. The gentleman in Weatherford (Local, about 60 miles from me) is getting me a quote. ClickClickRacing.com (Dan Guilsford) is the other quote request but I just sent it so I didn't expect an immediate answer.

The AOD is going to be my sticking point, if not the title. I'm going by the tax office tomorrow, wish me luck. 25 year old car with no value, I hope it's not a hassle. Here's the fun part -

not a registered owner = hassle for insurance
no insurance = hassle getting registered

yay. This is one reason I like new cars. lol.

In other news, there are a few pinholes in the low spot of the floor, passenger foot area. The frame mounts for control arms in the rear seem okay, mostly surface rust. There are a couple of spots on the body that are pin holed, above the hatch near the hinges. The part of me that says "Make it run" thinks I should spray those areas with conversion paint that turns rust into zinc and worry about fixing the holes later. I've even thought about caulk / silicone on the parts that would let water in the car. I may have jumped the gun on this pile, but I think it will be okay with a bar and subframe connectors.

[milner351]

get some similar gauge sheet metal - cut out a piece that is a few inches larger than the problem area on all sides
(if it's a 1" round hole put a 3" square patch over it)

Get the easiest, flatest sitting side tacked on in several places - then beat the piece into shape while continuing the weld as you go.... I've put in a lot of patches that way and it works well, as long as you don't care what it looks like (floors) and you have some room to work.

I would caulk the roof pinholes and use the saranwrap / caulk trick to build up the hatch weather stripping to keep out water for now and for DW.

The floors - especially in the rear that close to the control arm mounting points - need good metal

[Beagle]

Thanks Milner. The metal seems largely okay, random spots moreso than areas. I'm gonna look silly with a roll bar in a fourteen second car, but I figure that and subframe connectors should help.

Discount price matched Summit, 255 60 15's should be here on Friday.

[Barry Donovan]

I like the title, a no named horse..seems synonymous with 1987.
I like the carb idea, and you will not be straining any law. I would be playing with CAI, reliefs, vent can routing, pcv..all errored on those roasters from day one.
the welds are familar, a project that I would take on too. making psi around a hole with a patch is very strong on the unibody.

the alloys should take wider than the seven in tread width, beads are thick ..because they are alloy. I have some that look normal with the 9 inch tread width, all due to the fat bead alloy...anything less, its like they are too small.
of course, no less than 60 series, as sidewall has to do a bit of a strange angle at the tire bead.

[1badmonkey]

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Discount price matched Summit, 255 60 15's should be here on Friday.[/QUOTE]


nice on the price match. my kid brought home one of these rustangs earlier this month, his really is a rustang. the floors are split on the seam right under the drivers seat. he is saving for connectors now though.

[Beagle]

lalalalala... waiting on callbacks for transmission.... dammmit.

Ordered Icon (Keith Black) forged pistons today, 11cc. Almost 11:1. Hmmmm. Needs more cam. I have a double secret plan though - it will be 10.25:1. Hopefully it doesn't blow up in my face. I've already got a set of 4.03 moly rings around here somewhere. It's tempting to go 11:1 , Victor Jr, 248* solid roller... but that wouldn't fit the rest of the crap I already have. Heads are too small for this motor and that kind of build.

I had planned to use 22cc Hyper KB's but I was looking at the pin bore in them and they're scuffed. I'd still use them, just not in this thing which I expect to stay together at 6k. I also wanted a forged piston in case I get aggravated with performance and go for the blue bottle.

Budget is getting beat up pretty quick. Good news is, there are bushed i-beam 5.956 ARP bolted rods here already, an Eagle crank, 28 oz balancer, the heads, pushrods, rockers, oil pump, most of the junk I need to put it together.

Bad news is block needs to be bored (time) pistons mocked up and deck cut (time) and balance (time).

Need flex plate, headers, short h-pipe, cat back if I don't dump them in front of the axle.

I've got some Hooker Aerochamber 2.5's , an x-crossover, and can probably use the Falcon 2.5 flowmaster kit I have to put them over the axles. Probably do that.

edit - here's a twist. Going with manual rack, but ... a/c. I will borrow the brackets for the AC from my Bronco, or may see about moving the compressor lower for more water pump pulley belt wrap.

While I'm waiting on driveline stuff, I think I'll go ahead and put a heater core in it. (groan)

/more edit - ordered carpet, thinking about lizard skin or sound deadener. Thoughts?

I want an external cooler / fan , the trans won't have lockup. Where do the Mustang guys put external coolers?

[BBR]

Steering junk in DFW area

http://www.429-460.com/t15091-mustang-steering-components

[Beagle]

Thanks James, I'm gonna "borrow" the rack I bought for the Lincoln. I crawled under it again and the reason it didn't mark the old driveway is that it was already empty. The boots are wasted on the power rack. I hadn't really thought about it, I may check the Lincoln's power rack out. The hose connection to the resovoir is what was leaking on it.

[Beagle]

I hate this damn forum software some times. I had this great shout out to Jegs posted up - short version, they price matched for me and it saved me a bunch of coin, and they sent the KB pistons in standard size as well which saves me a bunch of time and money not having to bore this block. It doesn't really need it, cross hatch is still there, and it measured up in tolerance for taper and round.

My only reservation is running it with .055 quench. I'll wait and see how it stacks up but I'm betting on .015 deck. It would take it from 10.25 to 9.95 roughly... cam is 224* @ .050 , 112* LSA, it might be gas sensitive. We'll find out I guess. Spray that bitch with windshield washer fluid if I can't control it.

[Beagle]

Weellll, carp.

Dan Guilsdorf (SilverFox, clickclickracing) is stacked up for a month. The dollars would put this car out of this forum and into project cars just barely. 700 foot pound capable AOD, hardened non-lockup shaft and 1,2,3-4 electric OD Delete valve body like a Lentech. The month thing is not gonna work, but the price seems reasonable if it holds up.

Mike's Slick Shift in Weatherford - Mike called this afternoon and has a built AOD that matches what I'm asking for, just freshened. He is sending me a quote on it.

I may end up having to clutch up and converter this thing myself. Should be interesting. lol. Maybe I should just find some pedals for it and use the Tremec and pray. haha.

Another question... if it's 88lph at 39psi, how does that work when you've got it down to 5 or 6 psi? I think I have a 190 lph here, if I can find it. I suppose I need to give this fuel pump a couple of moments of thought. The front cover for the Lightning short block does not have a fuel pump provision.

[Beagle]

ah, so this thing is gonna go way over the 5k budget in version one. The BBF version 2 will be under 5k. I'm putting the engine I wanted in my Lightning into this car so I can get it done before DW starts. It'll come out when I'm done, cheap 460 c6 going back in. Sorry, but I'm gonna chatter like hell anyway for a couple of weeks.

The 393 is going to be right at 3000.00 - ooops.