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  • BBR
    Chief Do'er
    • Nov 2007
    • 11726

    #16
    I don't know how it all works. How is their sanctioning tied to their insurance? I know we ran at both NHRA and IHRA tracks last year and it did not come up as an issue.
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    • MoparBilly
      Superhero BangShifter
      • Oct 2011
      • 541

      #17
      This is another of them situations I was refering to in my first post. We all know it is clearly defined that you need an NHRA license for NHRA tracks. We are not competing at a National Event. The only person who signs off on whether you are legal to go faster than 13.99, 11.50, 10.00, 8.50 is the single Track tech guy who checks you in at the first track. TULSA, which was an IHRA track for many years, and is in the heart of Outlaw track country...do you have any idea how much money they would lose, and how many local racers they would alienate if they followed NHRA guidlines to a tee????

      So you roll up in line. You present a tech card that has all your cert numbers filled in and legible, you have your helmet where he can see the Snell number, your seat belt where he can easily see the expiration date, when he's ready to leave the driver's door, you ask if he would like to see under the hood, If it's lift off , hold it up while he peeks under, if it's hinged, still stay at the front until he's done then shut it, and you quickly open the passenger's door and point out your chassis certification, you have your pants and jacket layed over the passenger door bar so he can easily check them at the same time. The whole time YOU are controlling the movements around YOUR car, be polite, engaging, and talkative, compliment the track, talk about how excited you are to race there, this limits the amount of time he will want to spend on you, and will put the onus on him to be the bad guy if he chooses to delve any further. You have your Hot Rod tech card pre-filled out that you are legal to 8.50, don't leave it blank for them to write in. Present your license only if asked for it, don't bring up which association it is unless he squaks about it first. "Awe, man, all this "Association" bs, I don't have an NHRA track near where I live, and you can clearly see I'm legal...".


      Or you can bring it up on the internet, get everyone riled up about it, and have people calling the track management and warning them to look out for improper IHRA documents, and force everyones hand...

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      • Beagle
        "Flounder"
        • Apr 2011
        • 13804

        #18
        Originally posted by CDMBill View Post
        325 drag radials are listed as ok for street race, super street race and modified, but there is also a 11.5 go/no go gauge. Both the Hoosier and MT 325's are specified by the manufacturer as having wider thread width than 11.5 and my measurements on 10" wide rims confirm this. Are 325's ok, or not....
        Hey Chad, I think this question has been asked several times and remains unanswered. Inquiring minds need to know!
        Flying south, with a flock of bird dogs.

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        • moparman63
          Hero BangShifter
          • Jul 2011
          • 325

          #19
          sanctioning thru ihra or nhra not only aids greatly in getting insurance,but also a little bit with rates.
          63 Plymouth DW 2011 Quickest Mopar 11.38@119 Daily Driver

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          • lun40119
            Superhero BangShifter
            • Jan 2011
            • 1564

            #20
            Originally posted by MoparBilly View Post
            This is another of them situations I was refering to in my first post. We all know it is clearly defined that you need an NHRA license for NHRA tracks. We are not competing at a National Event. The only person who signs off on whether you are legal to go faster than 13.99, 11.50, 10.00, 8.50 is the single Track tech guy who checks you in at the first track. TULSA, which was an IHRA track for many years, and is in the heart of Outlaw track country...do you have any idea how much money they would lose, and how many local racers they would alienate if they followed NHRA guidlines to a tee????

            So you roll up in line. You present a tech card that has all your cert numbers filled in and legible, you have your helmet where he can see the Snell number, your seat belt where he can easily see the expiration date, when he's ready to leave the driver's door, you ask if he would like to see under the hood, If it's lift off , hold it up while he peeks under, if it's hinged, still stay at the front until he's done then shut it, and you quickly open the passenger's door and point out your chassis certification, you have your pants and jacket layed over the passenger door bar so he can easily check them at the same time. The whole time YOU are controlling the movements around YOUR car, be polite, engaging, and talkative, compliment the track, talk about how excited you are to race there, this limits the amount of time he will want to spend on you, and will put the onus on him to be the bad guy if he chooses to delve any further. You have your Hot Rod tech card pre-filled out that you are legal to 8.50, don't leave it blank for them to write in. Present your license only if asked for it, don't bring up which association it is unless he squaks about it first. "Awe, man, all this "Association" bs, I don't have an NHRA track near where I live, and you can clearly see I'm legal...".


            Or you can bring it up on the internet, get everyone riled up about it, and have people calling the track management and warning them to look out for improper IHRA documents, and force everyones hand...
            Point taken.....
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            2nd Place SB/NA DW11
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            • bulletproof
              Superhero BangShifter
              • Jul 2011
              • 920

              #21
              Originally posted by MoparBilly View Post
              This is another of them situations I was refering to in my first post. We all know it is clearly defined that you need an NHRA license for NHRA tracks. We are not competing at a National Event. The only person who signs off on whether you are legal to go faster than 13.99, 11.50, 10.00, 8.50 is the single Track tech guy who checks you in at the first track. TULSA, which was an IHRA track for many years, and is in the heart of Outlaw track country...do you have any idea how much money they would lose, and how many local racers they would alienate if they followed NHRA guidlines to a tee????

              So you roll up in line. You present a tech card that has all your cert numbers filled in and legible, you have your helmet where he can see the Snell number, your seat belt where he can easily see the expiration date, when he's ready to leave the driver's door, you ask if he would like to see under the hood, If it's lift off , hold it up while he peeks under, if it's hinged, still stay at the front until he's done then shut it, and you quickly open the passenger's door and point out your chassis certification, you have your pants and jacket layed over the passenger door bar so he can easily check them at the same time. The whole time YOU are controlling the movements around YOUR car, be polite, engaging, and talkative, compliment the track, talk about how excited you are to race there, this limits the amount of time he will want to spend on you, and will put the onus on him to be the bad guy if he chooses to delve any further. You have your Hot Rod tech card pre-filled out that you are legal to 8.50, don't leave it blank for them to write in. Present your license only if asked for it, don't bring up which association it is unless he squaks about it first. "Awe, man, all this "Association" bs, I don't have an NHRA track near where I live, and you can clearly see I'm legal...".


              Or you can bring it up on the internet, get everyone riled up about it, and have people calling the track management and warning them to look out for improper IHRA documents, and force everyones hand...
              even though im way too slow to worry about most of this stuff,your example is how i handle tech at the track...attitude goes along ways...

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              • 38P
                Banned
                • Jun 2009
                • 5738

                #22
                Can I get by with the same stuff as I do at home?

                License, schmichense! Let's discuss rules for cars you can measure with an hourglass.

                I need to find out for sure if I can slouch by with what I get by with close to home (in the unlikely even I get "the call" ). . . .

                1. Driver safety: I'm not anyways close to 11.50, I'm not running a turbo, supercharger or dinitrogen monoxide, and my "storebought car" has a showroom stock firewall and a closed body . . . so at home I run an SA2010 full-face helmet and no fire jacket, neck collar, or gloves. The way I read the NHRA rules, that's totally legal. So am I right?

                2. Driveshaft loop: Because M/T ET Street Radials are DOT tires, they're not teched as "slicks" so no driveshaft loop is required. Is that how it's going to be on DW '12?

                3. Magnetic "decals": As long as they don't fly off, is there any rule against them? (I don't necessarily want to explain "Bangshift" decals at home or to "Five-O" if I don't have to).

                How 'bout it "insiders" . . . any insights?

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                • lun40119
                  Superhero BangShifter
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 1564

                  #23
                  I like Ice Cream.......YAY!!!
                  Team Clueless
                  1st Place SB/NA DW12
                  2nd Place SB/NA DW11
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                  • 38P
                    Banned
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 5738

                    #24
                    Originally posted by lun40119 View Post
                    I like Ice Cream.......YAY!!!
                    We can always count on helpful, informative, insightful answers from some of the "insiders."

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                    • moparman63
                      Hero BangShifter
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 325

                      #25
                      i am with billy right to the point that someone goes a long way and gets told they are only legal for 10.00.that is just reflective of my luck i ges.lol
                      it was mentioned earlier that with some preparation it could be handled easily at the track,if need be.
                      63 Plymouth DW 2011 Quickest Mopar 11.38@119 Daily Driver

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                      • nesabo
                        Legendary BangShifter
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 4288

                        #26
                        1. Helmet only should be fine.
                        2. will let someone with more knowledge answer that.
                        3. BS stickers will not attract attention from the 5-OH. They peal off easy when you need them to, so put them on at TNT along with all of the sponsors stickers, take them off when done racing Friday.
                        Last edited by nesabo; August 8, 2012, 06:44 AM.
                        Neal

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                        • LAGNAF
                          Superhero BangShifter
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 749

                          #27
                          pretty sure you have to have a loop if you run drag radials too..
                          Dan, Co-Pilot Drag Week 06
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                          • milner351
                            No Life Outside BangShift.com
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 16033

                            #28
                            I run a loop regardless.... they're $25 from summit and not that hard to install - worth the peace of mind, I don't want to pole vault a car.
                            There's always something new to learn.

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                            • Ron Ward
                              Legendary BangShifter
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 5340

                              #29
                              Originally posted by lun40119 View Post
                              I like Ice Cream.......YAY!!!
                              Ever had an Orange Julius?


                              Yum!
                              It's really no different than trying to glue them back on after she has her way.

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                              • lun40119
                                Superhero BangShifter
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 1564

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Ron Ward View Post
                                Ever had an Orange Julius?


                                Yum!
                                No.....Will you buy me one? I luv u long time!!!
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                                1st Place SB/NA DW12
                                2nd Place SB/NA DW11
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