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  • kyhunter89
    Superhero BangShifter
    • Jan 2008
    • 1375

    #1

    standard block Metric Starter

    The staggered pattern mini starter off a 98 c1500 5.7 supposedly takes a metric shank and my 400 sbc has standard threads. Supposedly Scoggin Dickey makes bolts for this. I cant find them. All the local parts stores had blank stares when asked.
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  • squirrel
    Benevolent Ruler of the Universe
    • Nov 2007
    • 19334

    #2
    Maybe the threads on the 98 5.7 are standard too? Did you ask for a bolt for that application, just to look at it? from a Chevy dealer
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    • Beagle
      "Flounder"
      • Apr 2011
      • 13804

      #3
      I think this thread kinda speaks to what you are asking? Measure yours up is what I'd say.

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      • kyhunter89
        Superhero BangShifter
        • Jan 2008
        • 1375

        #4
        No, none of the parts stores had them in stock. Havent been to a dealer yet, Im usually asleep 9-5. Google threads showed the 5.7 was metric but the threads where close enough to thread in, but would back out often.
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        • kyhunter89
          Superhero BangShifter
          • Jan 2008
          • 1375

          #5
          Originally posted by Beagle View Post
          Howdy Y'all. Well to start this one off I wish to put as much information on this subject as possible . I will start off with something I inadvertently learned today. Please feel free to add any & all pertinent information . No matter how small & insignificant it might seem. I hope for this...
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          People saying every block since 81 is metric threads, metric bolts will crack the block, etc. I know people use these starter all the time.

          My block is a 1974 168tooth.
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          • 68scott385
            Legendary BangShifter
            • Jul 2011
            • 5773

            #6
            Originally posted by kyhunter89 View Post
            http://forums.superchevy.com/70/8836...er-bolt-whole/

            People saying every block since 81 is metric threads, metric bolts will crack the block, etc. I know people use these starter all the time.

            My block is a 1974 168tooth.
            The "people" that said that on that forum generally knows his stuff...he's on all the mag forums and don't give crap advice, none that I've seen for 3 years or so. JM$.02

            I don't remember which pitches but I do know that there is an NC SAE, maybe like 7/16, and a larger metric pitch, like 1.25 or 1.0 that will thread into the other's hole but they will be noticably wobbly.


            ok so i'm backin the wrong guy and prolly fos...sorry
            Last edited by 68scott385; August 4, 2012, 07:04 AM. Reason: following post
            http://www.bangshift.com/forum/showt...n-block-wanted

            http://www.bangshift.com/forum/showt...-Blue-Turd(le)

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            • squirrel
              Benevolent Ruler of the Universe
              • Nov 2007
              • 19334

              #7
              Originally posted by kyhunter89 View Post
              People saying every block since 81 is metric threads,
              I don't know the answer, but I do know that that statement is BS....I have an 87 block, it's definitely not metric threads.

              I was reading somewhere recently about how the late 90s big block starter is really small and light, and it works on the old blocks, but you need to buy (stock late 90s) bolts from the dealer because the aftermarket ones don't work.

              I'd start at a dealer and see what happens. Sleep is overrated.
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              • kyhunter89
                Superhero BangShifter
                • Jan 2008
                • 1375

                #8
                Someone on a corvette forum posted the same starter as I have and putting it on an older block and they gave him this number. Anyone care to double check?
                Not sure if it has a metric shank...

                GM part number is 12338064

                http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...ter-bolts.html

                I hope people can find this thread for an answer
                Last edited by kyhunter89; August 4, 2012, 01:49 PM.
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                • Beagle
                  "Flounder"
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 13804

                  #9
                  it you get time to run by a yard, says LT1 starter bolt? There should be some of those maybe between Caprices and such.




                  GM (General Motors) - 12338064 -Starter Bolt For use with GM 9000852 or 12606096 Starter , Also used with LT1 Starter


                  source: http://paceperformance.com/i-6484760...1-starter.html
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                  • anotheridiot
                    Superhero BangShifter
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 1922

                    #10
                    I guess I am missing the point in this thread. If you have the metric 10mm bolt the holes for the bolts are gonna be .3937 in the nose. If you have the american nose its gonna be .375 (both plus or minus the tolerance) which is why the knurl does not come in contact with the starter case and loosens. If you need to use the metric starter and get metric bolts, you need to tap out the 3/8-16 american bolt thread to 10mm. Otherwise you would need a sleeve for the american bolt instead or drill the starter nose and press in a piece of steel tubing with a .375 ID.

                    A bolt with a .3937 shank and .375 thread might be made, but I doubt it.
                    Last edited by anotheridiot; August 5, 2012, 07:27 AM.

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                    • squirrel
                      Benevolent Ruler of the Universe
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 19334

                      #11
                      The point of the thread is to find that bolt with the metric shank and standard threads.
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                      • squirrel
                        Benevolent Ruler of the Universe
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 19334

                        #12
                        I just ordered a starter for my car....starter for a 99 454, my engine is a 1989 454. I'll see what happens.

                        I'll try the dealer for the starter bolts for a 99 and let you know
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                        • Beagle
                          "Flounder"
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 13804

                          #13
                          2.00 bolt sure seems like the easy answer. I'd sleeve it. haha. 13/32 tube, .014 thick walls, from hobby store. grin. Sorry, didn't mean to turd up the thread.
                          Last edited by Beagle; August 5, 2012, 08:09 AM.
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                          • squirrel
                            Benevolent Ruler of the Universe
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 19334

                            #14
                            The right way to do it is to get a long metric bolt and spend an hour on the lathe, cutting knurling threading the end to fit just right. yeah right
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                            • Beagle
                              "Flounder"
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 13804

                              #15
                              no metric change gears at Casa Forbes?
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