sunspot cycles

[Barry Donovan]

http://solarscience.msfc.nasa.gov/SunspotCycle.shtml

I had to live though two of them (as an adult) to realize I am going into a third...never paid attention until this one.

at the sunspots lowest count, maine had a ten foot snowfall..2008. temps were nice. Broke the rear end of the car in it sparking spot. thinking back to -20s for days, highs touching off 5 F above if the sun was out...weird. it was at the height of the suns flare cycle. I wonder why maine goes colder. An active sun should roast our little place.
the active sun and its 11 year cycles. I could not help but notice, this summer is cold. for maine that is most likely the opposite to the rest of the world...but now i know to tie it into that bright light in the sky bigger than california emission standards.

the sun.


2013 is the peak.

the 1990 height of the cycle of sunspots, I was in a town in central maine as a teen. 36 below measured and recorded. the weather man was a nutcase named tom shimansky or pronounced like that...very excited over the ordeal. we ended up with 70 mile an hour wind with the sun out. Never saw danger warnings like that since...

2000, I froze diesel. a mobile home. never done that before..again the cycle at its peak. that summer saw frost in august. freakish.

2012-13 due fro another one.. I got the caterpillar coolant in the little buggy.

anyone notice what thier locale does? I can see colorado and rare fires..they must get heat versus cool.

[oldsman496]

Oh man... your talkin' my languange B3M.... this sunspot cycle is a wierd one... just last year the sun was spotless for a very long time. this cycle has actually been delayed for over a year from when it 'should' have been here and it is still a very mild one so far... go to Spaceweather.com and check out the vids. SOHO and the Stereo space observatories are constantly producing awsome info. Old Sol is definatetly acting different than it has been for the last 30 yrs or so... some astronomers are predicting a HUGE increase in spots next yr, and others are predicting a slow down-turn in spots and a return to a featureless sun...




stay tuned and see!

[68scott385]

Is this the part where we play "I remember"?

Here, summer 1999 was bastard hot, 2009 was coolest summer EVER, 2011 was hottest summer EVER, this year is close.

Don't rememeber many extreme cold and/or snowy winters. December 1989 gave us coldest temps ever. Snowed in April 1987, unusual to get snow before Halloween or after March 1.

1993? was bad flood year for midwest...Missouri River folks...500yr flood. 15yrs later had another 500yr flood.

[pdub]

Is this the part where we play "I remember"?

Here, summer 1999 was bastard hot, 2009 was coolest summer EVER, 2011 was hottest summer EVER, this year is close.

Don't rememeber many extreme cold and/or snowy winters. December 1989 gave us coldest temps ever. Snowed in April 1987, unusual to get snow before Halloween or after March 1.

1993? was bad flood year for midwest...Missouri River folks...500yr flood. 15yrs later had another 500yr flood.

And now the Mississippi is drying up. Barges waiting for days taking turns going north and south in the puddles that are left.

[68scott385]

And now the Mississippi is drying up. Barges waiting for days taking turns going north and south in the puddles that are left.

Has that been a regular, repeating cycle, opposite of the flooding?

Like I'm a climatologist.

The Day After Tomorrow...movie...makes one wonder...

[pdub]

Has that been a regular, repeating cycle, opposite of the flooding?

Like I'm a climatologist.

The Day After Tomorrow...movie...makes one wonder...

It's hard to believe in global warming when it was 12 degrees here in eastern TN a couple seasons ago.

But right now....I'm not so sure anymore. It's 67 here in the middle of the night. It's been nearly 80 in the morning for weeks. This is a cold wave.

[tardis454]

And now the Mississippi is drying up. Barges waiting for days taking turns going north and south in the puddles that are left.

Yup

[68scott385]

Globally, we're not far apart. Globally we're virtually next door neighbors, I guess.

Anyway, not to slam your homey Al, but I had a human ecology professor a couple years ago (3?) that swore that global warming was hocus pocus. His claim was that the planet goes through it's own temperature changes on a regular basis. How long has mankind kept accurate weather data? Wasn't long after that class, or maybe during, that the scientists that Al Gore used (works sited?) had been ousted for fudging the numbers...and I thought accountants were the only ones that did that.

I spent 20+/- years in construction. I knew that if I walked out the door at 5am and the thermometer hanging on the garage said 70+ it was going to be a mother hot day. Humidity is a bitch here in the Ohio Valley, not that it (humitity) isn't bad other places but I could really go for some AZ dry heat occasionally.

[68scott385]

Yup

If I read the watermarks right, that looks like the water level is 10ft or more low.

IIRC, 2001, Ft Peck Lake, Mt was down about 15ft+/-...not sure about its relevance to Missouri River.

[pdub]

If I read the watermarks right, that looks like the water level is 10ft or more low.

IIRC, 2001, Ft Peck Lake, Mt was down about 15ft+/-...not sure about its relevance to Missouri River.

I got my info from a news story online, it went on and on. Some of the rivers in the midsection are 20 feet low. That's hard to comprehend.

[68scott385]

I didn't mean to question your information, I believe it. I haven't heard much about river levels this year. Locally we only hear about the level of the Ohio River unless something like massive flooding is happening in the midwest. Of course our river level(s) are affected by what happens in PA.

[pdub]

I didn't mean to question your information, I believe it. I haven't heard much about river levels this year. Locally we only hear about the level of the Ohio River unless something like massive flooding is happening in the midwest. Of course our river level(s) are affected by what happens in PA.

No worries Scott, I historically question the press more than anything. But photos are usually pretty convincing. Even coming from the news media, if there's that many images of things, yeah, something's going on. In this case, a drought.

A bad one.

My daddy had a great theory that I think to be very logical. There's only so much moisture in the atmosphere, all around the world. So if an area is experiencing a drought, another area is getting a flood.

Am I not watching the news enough, or am I just not paying attention... Where's the flood happening?

[68scott385]

Where's the flood happening?

I have to ask the same question. Your dad's theory makes sense to me. I have heard the current drought conditions equated to the conditions of the Dust Bowl era.

I am selective on my sources of news. Much of it these days seems sensationalized for the benefit of the uninformed or realit-show desensitized. I like the BBC World News on PBS, it gives a different viewpoint of global events that the Big 3 (no cable allowed) seem to filter.

[pdub]

I have to ask the same question. Your dad's theory makes sense to me. I have heard the current drought conditions equated to the conditions of the Dust Bowl era.

I am selective on my sources of news. Much of it these days seems sensationalized for the benefit of the uninformed or realit-show desensitized. I like the BBC World News on PBS, it gives a different viewpoint of global events that the Big 3 (no cable allowed) seem to filter.

I'm smiling when I say this - they're all full of shit.

They're too stretched out. They get sent to a car wreck and then to an industrial accident in the same day, and they have about an hour to put the story together and then speak on camera with perfect makeup, like they are an authority on the subject.

And we watch. And most of us believe.

I don't (believe). Most times.

[68scott385]

And they hype their stories like they are earth-shattering revelations. YOU won't believe what WE discovered about THEM, the story @6 & 11 (three days from now).

That's why I like BBC World News on PBS and The Nightly Business Report also on PBS. Seems to be the same stories at the same time as The Wall Street Journal. Must be up-to-date if it's in WSJ, the "business" paper, and probably as accurate as a second-hand telling can get, "according to sources that know the story".