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    Quote Originally Posted by streetshark View Post
    Yeah, not a 2 bolt. Gotta work with what I have. Not totally sold on the 406 yet as the 355 still has potential. I wanted the 406 for the torque I read it will put down, as it will be lugging my big-ass caprice down the track and also doubling as my power tour car for 2013.

    With my financial situation, I am just happy to have options. Thankfully my brother and a few friends will be helping me with the build to keep costs down (service manager for Chevrolet dealership). Lots of craigslist browsing in the future.
    my dad and I were having a conversation today that seems quite relevant to this one. His friend has a crate 350 in his hauling truck, and hates its lack of torque. So we were bench racing all sorts of ideas (the guy has a 70 El Camino with a 4 speed as trade - thus its value determines how much is going to be spent on the build) on what would work best.... our agreement was this, there is no replacement for displacement - especially when you're trying to move large objects. I've done the 350, 383, 400, and 406 in the same truck. All those motors were in a variety of build combinations, and nothing compared to the 406. It even got better mileage.

    Sell the 350 and use the money to buy better parts for the 406 - like 5.7 rods and pistons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperBuickGuy View Post
    Sell the 350 and use the money to buy better parts for the 406 - like 5.7 rods and pistons.
    X2

    and with this cam http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CCA-12-560-4//
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    Wyrmrider - Caprice is a 1989 and will only be a weekend cruiser/once a month strip car. Also has to be dependable and streetable for the Power Tour. Has to run on pump gas. Not sure on gearing and converter yet. Trans is a 700R4 out of my brother's 12 sec Camaro nicely set up. Cam is still in the air, and I am paying attention to all the ideas on here. In the end, it will probably be up to the guy actually building the engine (making sure I don't screw it up) with ideas I give him. Looking to perform in the 0-5500 rpm range.

    I am leaning heavily towards the 406. I bought it complete with from carb to pan. It has a fresh rebuild (so I was told) but will tear it down and have everything examined before it goes back together with the new heads. Depending on the parts that are in it I may end up buying new internals, or whatever I can sneak by the wife.

    If anyone is wondering why a Caprice, I just happen to have one that is bone stock with the 305 TBI. Bought it on a whim and the price was right. My last performance car was a 2010 2SS/RS Camaro M6. Camaro had to be sold due to wife being "downsized" from job and with the budget shrunk, need to be thrifty and use whatever I already have laying around. The Caprice looks exactly like the one attached, down to the Z28 rims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TC View Post
    As long as he doesn't try to spin it to the moon, he'll be fine..........

    You got splayed caps on your buzz bomb??...........
    Why yes I do, on my 2 bolt 421 engine.
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    did you get the 9C1 package?

    Jeff - with stock internals, you spin it up? You're braver then I
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    I would use the 400 if your going to make ( pick a number) 1.2 HP per cube then the 350 will make? the 400 will make? do the math the 350 will never catch up. Keep in mind its all about the air kept in the cylinder and where peak TQ is made when picking a comp to use and a camshaft. It takes both working together to run right.

    Keeping on Budget I would get a stock car claimer engine kit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperBuickGuy View Post
    did you get the 9C1 package?

    Jeff - with stock internals, you spin it up? You're braver then I
    I aint Skeered!

    The engine I have right now see's 8300 with a Eagle Crank and rods LOL

    He wont be spinning it up the heads wont let it, or I would not even try to because of the gear and converter he will be using.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffMcKC View Post
    Why yes I do, on my 2 bolt 421 engine.
    My 406 has them to......

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    Quote Originally Posted by streetshark View Post
    Wyrmrider - Caprice is a 1989 and will only be a weekend cruiser/once a month strip car. Also has to be dependable and streetable for the Power Tour. Has to run on pump gas. Not sure on gearing and converter yet. Trans is a 700R4 out of my brother's 12 sec Camaro nicely set up. Cam is still in the air, and I am paying attention to all the ideas on here. In the end, it will probably be up to the guy actually building the engine (making sure I don't screw it up) with ideas I give him. Looking to perform in the 0-5500 rpm range.

    I am leaning heavily towards the 406. I bought it complete with from carb to pan. It has a fresh rebuild (so I was told) but will tear it down and have everything examined before it goes back together with the new heads. Depending on the parts that are in it I may end up buying new internals, or whatever I can sneak by the wife.
    You should just leave the 305 in it and add what cheap bolt ons you can and forget wasting any more money you don't have on it.

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    I wouldn't call it "wasting" money on it. I can always pull the 406 out and give the body to my nephew for a demo car. Besides, it's kinda my 4th car, behind my wife's turbo Cruze, my Jeep, and my Mustang GT conv. Just something to play with, and I haven't seen another that is not all ratted out and falling to pieces. It's basically rust free with the paint in crappy shape.

    SuperBuickGuy - nope, not the 9c1. This one just fell into my lap. One family owned car bought locally in 1989. Wish it was a retired squad, but not so lucky. It does have the certified speedometer from a squad that I bought off fleabay tho.

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