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  • Barry Donovan
    No Life Outside BangShift.com
    • Jul 2009
    • 16928

    #451
    e8012s fuel pump installed

    nice pump..absolutely a sweet spot. Utilized the same waterproof plug in as subaru oem..got alot of spare stuff like that in bins.
    warm up was faster, my alt gauge is up..ready for some serious cold...and big hills, and left hand turns, and...maybe a land speed run.

    filled a long running void. Exhaust and the tinny noises are null..and I found way at the back the flanges that subaru used , I mimicked, to get a new muffler in, that needs a gasket... but is pretentious.

    changed the whole runtime.
    the biggest change is amp draw is way way down, and pump has less of a solenoid interval. quite audible, love it.

    strong fires.

    the weep in return line is .030, now just right..

    and the pump mount, it is a good thing I went as extreme as I did making it, pump is much bigger, like my welded mount.

    a learn from this..
    as the old rochestors were cam driven, thumping along at 5 psi..this 8012s covers what could be more than 50 years of engineered runtime proven. Very good call to install it..with that pump, a rochestor can go anywhere, do not need cam pump driving it like the old days.

    I took apart the old pump, and found some dark spots where some wires run below the relay..it got more than warm localized. No heat to feel outside pump. I was curious as the amp draw is way down now on bigger pump..something must have been wrong with the old...and they used expanding foam looking stuff.

    All done with that pump..will keep as emergency/temp use. I may have found rear end cracker, tank breaker...the old pump was a lunatic. Deciphering the most serious steel errors..coincidentally , the exit to fuel tank into fuel line, and entrance into chassis..the other end of fuel line. more than a coincidence now..that pump was crazy. like an "out" energy with what should have been an "in.." chose fuel line ends as disperser of internal mistake, took some cracks at the chassis.

    At twenty years to just find the errors, it continued on a few more before I really attacked it to strong. So..not all that dramatic, this was very long term stuff..most likely a bleed that passes regulations. This new pump is a whole calm aurora..bigger and way less draw for the work done.




    I like watching mighty car mods, an australian pair that take on little cars. Asia being so close, they got alot more rice than the american sized stuff we see australia for. America is in the same delusion..alot more small today that yesterdays big. Not many take the little stuff on and seem to have fun with it. good show. they hack everything.

    mighty car mods (you tube) commentor, writing a quote, and getting a handful of thumbs up.. I was thinking of the “you are not the maintenance man” episode I went through recently. A bit of defense is needed for every builder…even if its your lonely own.

    some wonder how I could be ths dynamical wandering around in real world. An old subau at bangshift, not likely. the reason people stick together is for defense. Just a glimpse of my own history working with many people and their cars, and being part of a brand new post cold war military emphasizing world wide qualified...(1991)
    I can't be nailed down too much.

    I keep my chevy stories the quietest. It is the greatest defense after all..
    when something is gretaness, and known, it does not need many words. Even japan mentioned the sleeping giant....

    this thread in summary is very simple. Strong meeting strong. An 80s japanese car is some of the worst in automotive history..
    this subaru with the 3 mains as tough as an old lycoming..it is the saddest stab at my motor head driven heart ever. With many years ahead, one has to know what to leave behind, like the greatest of car builders today. I look up to alot, as much as I write boldly out loud selfishly...patience I am shy of, and the tin can taught me that too.
    Last edited by Barry Donovan; December 12, 2012, 07:35 PM.
    Previously boxer3main
    the death rate and fairy tales cannot kill the nature left behind.

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    • Barry Donovan
      No Life Outside BangShift.com
      • Jul 2009
      • 16928

      #452
      about the sube

      I do shit on the tin can alot..realize this by going through the thread.

      I subscribe to every channel with popularity, "drive" , all the shows that go with it...bangshift blogs, I must read at leats once daily.

      There is builders like me, not exactly lonewolfing, but in weather like so cal making beautiful things. It keeps me going.

      I was just watching the camaro where he did not tub, but chose to widen...I got to thinking of the little sube here. it is not all that tin can I confess. American builds are my inspiration.

      I found the chassis wider by a decent margin in 2006..fat front engine arms, a bowlegged stance pushing boundaries up front..and a hint of neg camber in the back. I had never seen this on an ea82 version... and then found the wheels wells outer edges were shaped by subaru to prove it.. I went even further. I got 9 inch wide tread looking like the wheel arch and well gobbles it up like the width of bicycle tire. I could go 12 and stay in the wells..
      I have only guess four inches steel wider than factory..also no tub. I do not like concept of tubbing unless a very specialised dragster category..

      in my own opinion to what I am doing with this old rice...it is in my mind like a handshaped ferrari, with a downdraft self balanced. dings dents..has no scratches. that is weird isn't it. I did slop on about a gallon of extreme2 urethane in some hot june/july/augusts. this one needed a handbaked engine bay. I know that geometry needs real steel very hard upon install. make the paint keep it until anodizing by nature is done.

      a million bucks...to be sold for a couple of thousand.

      I have seen the vega with a 302 back when they were a hundred bucks out of a junk pile..the net has the big engine little chassis' all over the place. I have changed my mind about the sube and going unoriginal, due to the very lonely facts of something outstanding ..I am to leave drivetrain alone.

      A v8 gone to RWD, a fuel cell up into the hatch to fit a bigger IRS, perhaps from bimmer or mercedes, inifiniti, etc..

      changed my mind. humbly so... the little giant stays as is.

      follwing weather all over all the time, I see so cal is going to go just below 56..builders must be liking that. A chance for a true long term chassis, not just a baked one. (cali cars fall apart here- they do not know what cold is)

      back to the fuel pump.. I took old one apart see if I could do anyhting. added some form-a-gakset to the o-rings, verified a function, threw it in a spare parts bin. it may be fixed, I could only guess. the error is so subtle it needed years. the rochestor should have spec matching the old cam driven pumps anyway.




      I made a vid to show that this is indeed mellow..if you are directly behind it, its as annoying as a ricer motorcycle. I did decipher how I got pulled over...only to prove on the spot, it is far from illegal. This is day after 8012s fuel pump, still had to start once and stall..but that is alright by me. Reminds me of my 1974 chevelle that had the same carburator.

      buzzing bees from an ea82..

      directly behind my car, there is a subaru outback in the parking lot awaiting the garage. After starting, I saw dim brake lights blinking off and on off and on.. I triggered its alarm, glad its battery was near dead.. So directly behind it, there is a focused decibal. maybe a curved tail tip can help with that..right now its straight out.

      looking around to see where a sound is coming from..that is where this little sube is at. I guess straight back is the real answer for this level of runtime. leave the sound on the road...not hitting people in the head. Trucks local, they have been there for years..with pipes right at the height of little cars windhshields. Nothing else can be done for the bigger engines. Someone has to be annoyed sometime. Narrow the angles down, leave neighborhood houses alone. I did the same to my monte carlos. A v8 is very nice in comparison..but I wanted this boxer to run.

      if you deciphered the end of first gear in the vid, I was at speed limit before the end of it. very tall, hidden by a four cyl sound. I only went to 3k rpm..around 6k and beyond, wow... would not know this as old subaru at all. The front end stays perked right up, even as a brick with axles in it, up to just beyond 90mph. The little buggy is doing all it can. A speed run and my own math.. 120s for sure now. The oem pump was the last little retarder. I just might get to loring, finally, looking for some help about that.



      mohawk trail. Not to flood this thread with irrelevance. I took two subarus down this way..starting in bangor maine area. My grandpa is buried in north adams, where I have a reservation to be as well. The first subaru was manual steering, manual everything.. I veered off into some quiet places, family related pursuits ..such as old addresses (still not quite resolved, but will figure it out someday). The second subaru was 2wd, made the mustang seem fun in comparison.. I can see why they wanted to keep a subaru 4wd after some long trips with a 2wd.
      may attempt it again with a third old subaru, ten gers instead of five..and tires that stay alive. I may work up to upstate new york, birthplace of mentioned grandpa.

      ****

      some more interesting stuff on the sube..
      the first awd car not to be a truck offroader was by jensen in 1965. subaru came five years later, self balanced and still dropping jaws today with insanity built in or not. my locale still laughs at audis, all versions. they left the road quicker than a 2wd v8 mustang...or how 'bout that dodge colt with the sideways inline 4, and awd..the grandpa to the mental retards rally cans today.

      subaru has the world by self balance..short engines leaving a normally mounted drivetrain, in four outputs. amazing. vw made some in the vanagon, porsche had a 953 in 1983.

      An extremely interesing point about the subaru ea82..they are the only ones starting with the spfi engine to ship with centered cams. This really starts in 1990, goes to 1994, but can be a year or two before 90. A boxer does not need to thump like a wobbling weirdo after all.They have four years out of 1 hundred with something outstanding...the only ones by manufacture to ship that way. Being most people go monkey faced moron around a boxer thumping along..they did not catch onto the retarders being built into a computer...
      they put faith in the injection, left the engine to run normal. I caught on by dismantling one about 7 years ago. Huge epiphany. I was looking at history to be made. Hence this thread, big fuel air. I still have not gone through a whole winter...in fact just day before yesterday, the carb got the right fuel pump. I'll be turning the mix a bit, idle seems low (watch vid)..it is all so young to me.


      the boxer engine was invented by nesselsdorfer, not karl benz..they did use karl benz crankshaft, that was 1902..karl benz it seems was very fast with patents..not necessarily the inventor.

      subaru and not many others utilized it in car production. vw being the most famous...or lycoming. whatever realm you find these in..should not be doing away with them.

      funny thing with the nesselsdorfer, it was 5.9 liters as a 3 main. You gonna step and say "hey that crank is not strong enough?"..no. that was for subaru to do ..with insanity built in almost a hundred years later after proving itself in every realm known to man..subaru changed the boxer to five mains. Citroen was actually first, but they were done with it before it really began in the 60s.

      therefore, I am not a fan boy. this is my last subaru..and it is a 1987. Ten geared, 3 modes, and self balanced..even a tin can chassis held them together. With all the three mains of the draft kind gone antique, and carbed my first choice to take one in, (never wanting a computer)..it is the end of an era. Glad to have lived it. my first carbed subaru was from a dirt parking lot in 1996, now lit up like a mall. ..selling those dreadful new versions..
      I have tried to remember the stories. I had a grandma who did live in the woods..if she called, I went running. North central maine anytime.. I don't recall ever seeing a legacy. there were times, you could stop in the middle of I-95 and listen to dead silence..maybe the crackles if ice of freezing rain splattering onto the road...it is more than once or twice..grandma was like clockwork (I got alot of calls in the storms)

      My last four cylinder, and it is very unlikely for me to have one (I do not like small engines)..and it is indeed my favorite.

      2012 is the last carbed subaru turning 25. I guess I went antique with it, I'll be 40 in a month.

      I am sincerely pondering a trade off with a diesel truck from the 80s..the other realm with not enough defense.
      Last edited by Barry Donovan; December 14, 2012, 07:42 PM.
      Previously boxer3main
      the death rate and fairy tales cannot kill the nature left behind.

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      • Barry Donovan
        No Life Outside BangShift.com
        • Jul 2009
        • 16928

        #453
        about sube (cont)

        old sube cont...

        some extreme weather records..
        headed for 4F in the middle of december. Seems cold..but it has a -20F in the past. I started keeping an eye on this after fixing steel for the first time. my own welding, that was 2007, in the cold..

        for the past six years, since owning, it has officially been 97F to -26F for a low.

        make that 100F and -29F. Runway stays cool in the summer, warm in the winter. Guess where they got the official thermometer.

        my birthday has 3 weather records in that time of six years...-26F is one of them. Note that number did not just stand for a day, it has stood for several years as the coldest day all year. the other record is a high for january..55F. that may not be broken for years either.

        I was a cold cold hot cold hot baby.

        I am interested in this coming january to march more than the others for sun cycle reasons... will update this one post if a record breaks. I stop at march and that is stupid for this locale. Apr1 has soe 90 something, may has a 25F for a low..August has a 28. See how it unfolds this year. I guess the big thing is ice storms elongated..but I love them, they are warm and cleansing. The brut cold however..that is a land changing event. That is when routines of cars going down my road change dramatically...one season of brut cold does some things in forever. That rochestor of course cannot be stopped in such godly trivial events.

        the weather says alot about a welders integrity.

        ricer tin with a ten geared awd. subarus build was smart on paper..this means math is good. the actual metal was not. I knew to respect what was given, and that has been great so far. Just needed more steel..two extra beams spanning the belly.
        a note about the rear ends on this model, they died within 1 to 3 years. This one held up for 20 something before attacking it with a welder.

        the pinion angle, the wheel chair looking rear camber, seeming a toe in advance. It is genius to a one time trip, a long one.. and I know it. it saved its own ass, if it meant looking goofy to some.

        Still thinking of trips as if to conquer the past, almost a boyish daydream..as I feel I failed in the woods as a teen. Speaking my story had some professionals in tears..true story. No boasting about my gimp whatsoever. I described hypothermic death with no emotion...did not even know it. I had to be taught. Anyway..I know my primitive abilities. I gained some tales of big cats and a wolf..(not supposed to be in maine) with bait, I learned later,was not even legal. What the heck,I would have been tried as a minor if anyone in hell found me anyway. I am just 90 miles from abol bridge maine. "the golden road" was something travelled several times. Even camped out that way. I have always wanted to wait until 21 below in the sun...and drive the lonely drive...I could only pretend it to be unemotional. The big trucks.. I used to listen for them in the winter. That means life at the helm. Taking a ricer can home built..there is something so very vengeanced innocently..my story was before injection even took over vehicles. No computers..and if their was, maine took 5 years after the first of something to even knew it existed. The more time goes by..its as if I am the last of something...unintenional "manlier" story than never will be again. I still take a deep breath, I am alive. I still have an outdated maine map of paper binding...something I must keep in the old sube...it is the past.

        ****
        I was thinking of the brz, very new stuff. I do follow boxer engines around. if you have one in the temperate climates..get some serious negative camber in the back end. think 1980s bmw...the little buggy will go places. I noticed that right away, and it is a bit startling. the brz etc, they cannot be treated like an inline traditional..a boxer is a boxer is a boxer.

        happy holidays.



        edit: as luck would have it, this was in todays paper. A sube forestor flipped like a pancake. I eyeball them everyday, they are popular here. the ones that get driven have a rear left tuck like 1980s...thos will be around for awhile. the one in photo is a fresh squared up young ..and not exactly content.

        even the tall subes need the suspension away from subaru numbers,
        simply negative the back end camber a few degrees.

        a few degrees. its 230 am, no sleep, they dropped the forecast to 3..we'll see below zero. the guess is holding true. Not often to be below zero this early in december, at the way I am feeling it. like outer space has dropped down to an empty sky. When I had a metal plate in my foot, this time of year leads to brain stroke if I was in the working world. no sleep at night dialing in a chunk of steel to earth and my body at the same time. A switch is dec 21st solstice...the problem starts going away. not to get too personal. I used this phenomena to analyze steel.

        today it is just soaking a callous my foot doctor told me is the result of a foot not normal anymore. I am supposed to go back and see him if this happened. its too bad he died.

        not a filthy thing, I simply thought thats where those came from before my injuries. As luck would have it, I can only fit my right toe of my left foot on the clutch pedal, as the sube is a japanese woman sized area for pedals. Exactly where the painful callous is. it is a version that gained a nerve, my foot thinks it needs it at all times to make up for disfiguration at the heel. This kind of problem means my foot needs another operation at the bones...

        To be selling this sube, it is not to go to a sleezy deal. it has to go because I simply can't handle it. I shamefully like it alot. I confess it here on the net..it is easier. my locale throws their own flunking self at my tin can. I won't get the real value locally..by a long shot in odds anyway. maybe I am just being a pessimist. I want to thump slower like a diesel with an automatic and tall gears.. I suppose its the curve of life.

        willing to trade for kenworth.

        A few strange facts allowed me to wander into bangshift with this old sube..one was the tail lights having a tint of purple. Only a select few in the a10 chassis got those, and it was fibbed to be a mistake. I know better. If you are a genuine GM fan, that has some significance. the last traditonal sighting was an 84 monte carlo with the real gm SS build, and high compression HO (I owned the real thing, 1984). As I learned the story of those, it seems subaru mimicked something. the pruplish tail lense is an indication of genuine unusual, not just the lights for being purplish. I always wonder what secret goes with it. Why identify a car like that? I know why..and not many care to reveal these things. Even someone at subaru played the silent games. I suppose I have aother reason for antique plates.. the lights. I forget that like everyone else does. To replace those will be a lucky find on ebay, else its back to fire engine red loyale lenses..blah.

        ..and that leads to my own little secret, choosing gm air/fuel, the aftermarket digital interrupt ignition. The first america got fo carzy screaming was the 302 chevrolet. I mimicked the draft right down to a sintered bronze fuel filter. A mini version of screamer, gm style (they math out the same).


        I mentioned the clutch being annoying on my toe of my left foot.. I have a permanent callous type thing by natural reaction to a bad foot. I got to looking at the shoe liners and found I don’t use my left heel at all. This would be the only reason to part with the little subaru. The clutch finally feels strong enough as it is a Spec stage 1, etc..the only error now is me getting older.

        it is funny to think, I have had the injured foot since '96, also first year of me and old subarus. When the metal plate was in my foot, I could spark a finger off a door edge and my foot on the clutch (my first sube wore the clutch rubber off at 167,000 miles revealing the metal pedal). its been a long ride, and that ignition that wandered, is now perfection with an accel one wire feed around a magnetic pickup. I have over 125k miles of my own with the little ea82. Alot of shifting, but always lightweight.

        this setup here is the youngest and oldest at the same time...

        meanwhile 3 days of sloppy ice and snow coming.. I used to look forward to this. As car collectors go, now its a baby instead of old tin to beat on. A burden yes.

        I hope I am around to see the real value skyrocket without the socialist that hacked it, packed it, and wrongfully shipped it to the world incomplete..
        Last edited by Barry Donovan; December 21, 2012, 02:31 PM.
        Previously boxer3main
        the death rate and fairy tales cannot kill the nature left behind.

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        • Barry Donovan
          No Life Outside BangShift.com
          • Jul 2009
          • 16928

          #454
          landspeed cont...

          I am still stumped on the landspeed stuff,
          the 1.8 gets pounded by a 2.0..all in the same g/pro category, and then I find the G had a little more than "little" boost, still squeezing into the category. how is that "pro"? hard telling. hitting near 200 with a roll cage. wth is going on there.

          I know this boxer has it..1781cc natural. beyond a beetle..beyond any other.
          power to weight, natural aspirated, and an outcome...

          it is the last shame for me and this one. the callous on my foot still gets the clutch pressed in.

          the last vid I posted, blurry as i tis..you may have heard the bounce in the idle. it is a bit low, I know how to bounce it along..a bit like a diesel. the only n/a gas engine I have had that does this to fuel changes. it dials in to something mysteriously low level..the opposite of fighting to hear what I do.

          I want to try loring...it is ready for sure. At most remove front roof bar, leave the back one. Making it count.. I am a bit depressed. Seems a precision in category is missing...

          peewees adventure got me going, still got me.
          this porsche was the other one:


          I was thinking of being a ninny and puttng the old sube on some uhaul rental. No. that is just pussy.
          I am going to drive the 220 mile round trip with a few reserved for the track..a bit more confident this year. its all together as of now, not even jaunuary yet.
          this porsche drove from hot florida, all the way to texas, drove 220mph in the wind..and most likely all the way home.

          doesn't look like 220 mph does it.

          the sound of this one, it has my ears similar to my old subes goals. A boxer is a boxer. big and small. Turbos are not for this sube..so half of a big porsche speed is still doing good. exponentially the 3 mains will gain a bit beyond half..and that is all. It sounds like its earning every bit of it as well.

          I picked this porsche out of many landspeed runners. it is the sound..at the end of clip. do you know that sound? 1 in many cars actually gets it. big and small..without prejudice... not many actually get it.

          As I am volunteering to defend the last of self balance that cleans its own crankcase..
          to give you an idea what has not changed in 25 years, even after all the techno babble...
          the 2012 1.8L Honda civic SI is at 140hp and 128 foot pounds.

          this sube at 25 years old with a 1 barrel is >140 foot pounds, hp unknown, and 60 something less CC....

          don't need much for imagination there do I.
          Last edited by Barry Donovan; December 16, 2012, 10:22 PM.
          Previously boxer3main
          the death rate and fairy tales cannot kill the nature left behind.

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          • Barry Donovan
            No Life Outside BangShift.com
            • Jul 2009
            • 16928

            #455
            getting large

            I was just reading up on the IAT question in the other thread.. I do miss that function with injection..

            this one is makeshift (a pun I guess) very hot intake heater on a full wave diode switched... and fuel pump allowed to weep a return through a set nozzle of my choosing.

            its only been my second time running around with pump installed.

            I get out to pump fuel at the gas station, I leave the carb sube running...especially when changing settings, I like to pump a shot into tank with pump going. Under the canopy is the gas station pumps...damn. the little sube is getting big. Sounds like a big motorcycle.

            it was the fuel pump indeed. I have not set pressure the traditional way, it can only get bigger stopping the nozzle in the return line (all custom) and adding a regulator.

            will get to a proper mix at the screws when I know its full warm above 40F or so. useless to try it otherwise.

            a peculiar thing this car does is inflate or deflate the right front tire to big fuel/air change..it is on the down side now. (Its getting more air through the duct). Fuel may be correct, just cold out...can't say for sure.

            maybe get some fun in the snow coming.. I hardly have any fun at all.

            this weather rolls around, they got salt dry, ready to melt and ache teeth and cars when it dissolves...

            got talking to my dad, he hardly speaks memories. Right out of the blue, he'll tell us the story of some guy that had a heart attack came flying across the median, hit the driver side steering wheel and broke his arm caught in it..then drove himself to the hopsital...
            the way he goes about it, its like even his memory is an ongoing brain stroke.

            Reminds me of the internet.

            Today he was telling me about "the city" (his word for new york), and everyone was avoiding this lump of a blanket in the middle of the road, truckers telling truckers behind them to straddle tires, keep the object from hitting them, did not know what it was. Quite some time went by before they figured out it was an infant in the middle of the road, someone chucked from a car...this was early 80s.

            the pleasant stories of an old trucker. I now know how he can fly down those little roads with a smile...lack of pupulation is my place too. Can't tell him of country songs by little people declaring this place scary for truckers..once out in those woods. Hes even got his canadian stories..a crossing to prince edward island on ice. he was the last of truckers to do so, before the bridge was built.

            imagine me trying to keep this sube going in a city bigger than bangor. The midget plague has only begun here...a bit like a wolf is my nose, to disappear like a prophet eventually...

            the last of something does exist.

            got a snow ride in, just started snowing..1 tire was down to 15 pounds. the right front tire to the fuel change.

            heard a relay click when interior was warming up..(which is very nice to have some actual heat)..this can do a cold run now. I did not know which relay it was until shutting off the heat. heat motor did not come back on. The oddity with this problem..no heat, relay comes back whenever, not even temperature related. I changed it twice..maybe outrunning amps for the given relay. just another midget to evict from the chassis. all else stays foolproof for decades. I need to find some relay beyond 25 amp...which seems a hoax. maybe another brand at 25 amp will be a real 25 amp. 25 amp is a big amp...could be a spot for yet another full wave diode, power to blower motor must have some nasty feedback. Relays don't stop it, not their design to do so. A sticky static kick to pressure of cold air meeting warm. a/c heter box setups never fight with this, as a radiator for a/c splits the battle. this old sube is straight shot cold air across blower, to battle into heater core..

            meanwhile, carb is a slight choke, but doing well. much larger top end, only climbed to 4k around the city..feels good at the throttle.

            edit: I have to reread my own threads several times to edit. As one writes more and more..I approach it as if speaking to high school age.Anything less..learn.

            I caught onto the fact that the fuel pump, the single largest static function this side of a turbo was just installed. the heater motor and its windings take on new static like a fly to candy paper. Just went out to check, as I had talked of this in other places. A chance for a mishap...if a relay is stuck at its winding, it may become a super heated fire starter. the sube has never proven that in 26 years, so I just humor the check anyway. Sure enough, big powerful heater motor has returned to better than normal.. I knew I put big relays in to prove themself today. I have 3 subarus worth in a pile...12 or so. I found them at 15 a piece before shipping. Expensive little pile. of course today with ebay and china willing to ship, you can get 40amp SPST relays for 3 bucks with a fancy light inside to literally look at the relay work. I may swap the whole car over someday, give it a little console for my switches etc..but for now, subaru really did good with this very simple setup.

            For its year from japan, it could have looked like a 60s american, and it did not. in fact, there is some mystery boxes I will be keeping in memory for sometime. they even dropped time across a series of resistors, to end up with a final volt to keep a fuel pump calm..and then they called it a fuel pump controller. Not a clock to be found, no rISC chip anywhere..

            in short for the edit:
            fuel pump being new, sent its new seat to the heater motor. Very old function on these types of setups.I actually learned it on a 1978 delta88 and even more dramatically on a 1981 dodge omni. no electric fan for a new function? it will go to the heater first. Some used to keep the engine fans on a switch, just for this purpose. Swapping electronics, or electric nominal anyhting needs a place to go first, settle down into chassis later. The fan motors are a great target. Todays steel, post 1990, it is like a big computer box, these memories wil fade away.



            it is my level of electronics I guess. I like the 1980s running series instead of all out digital. Very very durable.


            2007, april. Little oem wheels on the big sube.

            I mentioned the fat oem body, in previous post. Found this picture from 2007. I captured some facts in this one, unintentionally..that is the way my first photos gathered. Ready for a dslr anytime. Even the front tires disappeared into the wells. too skinny to set a camber with a weight from wheel being that of a lawn mower trailer..
            the wheel in the back is an isuzu six lug. the usmb advice gone wrong, I spent too much for an idea that would not work. Been on my own with this for quite some time..

            the peugeot turbo wheels that came a year later, made a super subaru. I cannot even repeat enough, there is a small subaru that needs to stay small..this one is the freak rare build from 1985-87..no others did this.

            the back end wheel arch? there is +1.5 inches on each side today...on top of a fat sube already. I like to look at it..(not many catch on).
            As subaru and documentation left alot of builders walking away. exactly 25 years after this 1987, subaru strangely introduced a wide body. Anniversary for those in the know? A little more mystery for subaru fans..another means to shut down spam based subaru clubs...
            I am glad to be here at bangshift.
            Not a fan of subaru, I simply learned this one story, long time ago. A friend found this on the side of the road for 500, I drove it home.

            there is one other model in their history that may come out of nowhere... hint: its got two liters and SOHC, and I have seen it go down the road..just once. (shook my rooms wall). The rest in my own gear churned mind can go to hell.
            when rally leagues put the clamp down, even the porsche 953 suffered. did you know subaru was racng a little DL at the time of the 953 porsche? they both disappeared from the books. All movie clips give a glimpse if any at all..then focus on some midmounted weirdo to further pretend its a legend in rally racing..

            I learned of throttle limitation, permanent retarders that came later.. my own is 7mm beyond at the throttle, the 2 liter sohc is the last of all out monster builds by subarus builders (prodrive etc etc etc). In American builds, history of the v8 has been out long enough where one can go all out, build whatever they want..a foriegn build is much more difficult, especially asian. A 3 main waterboxer, and one build in the five main bearing world...I have no mercy otherwise, I walk right past the little engines..all makes and models.

            analogizing wolves.. it is comical to put nature to cars. A wolf is not all that big..but to be a self sustaining loner, and it happens in the cold places. It has to be fierce, with bite matchng the bark..A sound that grabs ears, and it goes unchallenged. Extinction threat at all times..
            if an alpha gains a pack, it stays together. That part, that drives me nuts. This little wolf stays alone until the end.

            subarus original G-wagon intention, and today its mash up to inner city marketing skills...yeah. I am all done with them.



            it seems the plastic air dams can hold up todays subaru.

            40 pounds of mig weld once upon a time..toyota truck struts for the rear.

            thanks to bangshift for humoring me. The air fuel alone made a use of a carb that often finds a junk pile, the old rochestor monojet.

            If I get some timed runs in, or weight, dyno..I'll post. Avoiding catastrophe, I let it sit dormant.
            Last edited by Barry Donovan; December 18, 2012, 05:44 PM.
            Previously boxer3main
            the death rate and fairy tales cannot kill the nature left behind.

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            • Barry Donovan
              No Life Outside BangShift.com
              • Jul 2009
              • 16928

              #456
              2012 summary

              got most of it in one vid..sleepless, did some editing. 4 am video.

              listening to a song that came out when I was in high school, put that in the video.



              for a personal vehicle, I have not done this much work ever. I'll get over being a downer sooner or later.

              got one comment on you tube, my vids get backshelfed like a 500hp camaro doing a burnout on desolate maine road..

              seemed a common sense question. the purpose of the build was to gain alot more air fuel, and ended up saving. Was not in the plans to do so, I wanted no more than 30mpg. Still goes by it into mid 30s. The huge savings seems to be cold starts, into warm up..and off idle to about 3k rpm. Very disciplined. To make this a race car, one needs to simply change the jet to a #82 (coincidence to engine label). I make the cold starts earn, it saves alot of money..old school way of going about it. That is where my most of my aging life is in real world anyway: A tuned carb that loves its owner.

              As vw is the most popular boxer in the world, comparing is easy..it sails right by all of their oem builds. The VW boxer race realm goes sailing by this little sube. it is simply inbetween staying friendly and little brute...more for restore in proper math and path than race car.

              summarizing the carb..it is a shared main well with a real accel pump. Late 70s. There is alot more old version of monojet, and they are known for being garden hoses to little engines if to try one. go for the shared main well, electric choke versions. the sharing main emulsifier is the big saver in unnecessary fuel dumping..it never will, because it is not possible to dump it.

              the mystery I leave 2012 off with is at the end of the video...7000 in third is a big speeding ticket, even on the highway.
              To know me in real life, I am not a fan of small things..or shrunken ideas from something that can be bigger. I took this little sube on with some amazing facts to ponder..

              I was just watching jay leno and a bugatti type 37a. Supercharged 1.5 liter, 90hp, 3 valve heads. At .13 pounds per horsepower, 122mph is its top speed...still famous today, inlines have not gone much past it fo the tiny displacement.

              the sube at 2900 pounds underestimated is also 90bhp,at 1781cc, two valve heads... with 31.1 pounds per horsepower...120mph top speed. This is not about technology. this is about real balance, and the result of it being able to breathe like all the other little engines were allowed to...I still tease by mentioning a 1 barrel.
              Awesome examples of boosted 3 mains are the beetles..alot of vids on you tube. Freakish fast..
              Last edited by Barry Donovan; December 20, 2012, 03:11 AM.
              Previously boxer3main
              the death rate and fairy tales cannot kill the nature left behind.

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              • Barry Donovan
                No Life Outside BangShift.com
                • Jul 2009
                • 16928

                #457
                car of the year..

                I mentioned being my own version of autojournalism. repeating my prerequisites as a path is painful..and very redundant.

                I am congratulating drive channel on you tube for choosing the subaru brz as car of the year.

                dynamical minds go through alot of common sense to make a decision.

                I have been there 25 years.

                ..and for the episode it was announced.

                the caprice battle wagon crushes the v12 mercedes.

                impossible for me to like a brand for what it is.. I'd be hackng the heck out of a brz too...
                and as for facts, america has 90% of all cars of the years...
                it will return.

                return..seems that is what the power level , as in volts, is doing with the little sube. A fresh pump in the cold is about as dumb as a welding job right now. Steel is very static like..old school raw. Kicked a fusible link into some static, had no fuel pump for several minues at the store. I almost got uptight, until remembering how young this setup is. gave cables at the battery and fusible link box a wiggle. Fuel pump has a strong stable sound, must have just burned it in just now. Lights are bright, heater is awesome, all four wheels on earth. this is something i don't mention in this thread..how it rides.

                this car has less creaks than a new cadillac...there is absolutely none. First year with the tough rear struts.. I knew that would be a nice finale from past years thinking of them. this car used to squat down in the back, and bury some travel limit. That could be the fuel pump change being a bit more dramatic as well. 12 inches at the dog legs/rockers off the ground. fuel pump sits in that area. positive rake, new gas tank. 26 years is not a short timer. I could drive a long day about now...

                I keep an eye out on northwest north america, alaska interior. 2010 had a handful of records about now, -50s F..checking maine at the same time was warm. This year, fort yukon as at it again, breaking records in the 50s F below...and maine went into december in the single digits. 4F shy of an 83 year old cold record. I am hoping the regular pattern of sun cycle peak meets the northwest breaking records. That is what happened here in the late 80s, early 90s...the most phenomonal weather temperatures I have ever lived through. Seems its on pace after today..the next ten days will not hit past mid twenties for a high, forecast single digits as a low...january will tell.

                I was thinking of cars back then, living in the woods. Nothing wanted to start. my grandmas jeep was a year old. my 78 delta88 was useless. Attempting my atv broke the starting cord. I wonder what the new boxers do, the fa/fb stuff...its in the brz. Not even thought of back then..big fat intakes complex injection. I love the challenge...back then it was life or death, even the furnaces gelled the diesel. it got very serious..unannounced. At 18 below +/-, the ceilings gain a white fog hanging about a foot down..never have figured that out. Not that cold is rare..just 3 years ago, I was here for the -26F on my birthday, on this very same computer.
                Last edited by Barry Donovan; December 21, 2012, 07:26 PM.
                Previously boxer3main
                the death rate and fairy tales cannot kill the nature left behind.

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                • Barry Donovan
                  No Life Outside BangShift.com
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 16928

                  #458
                  staying safe

                  Not much to hide about, until attacked by groupies who worship oem builds..that is the biggest shame known to man. That is why I am here at bangshift. Things really get built, and really get tried. I did add alot of power in proportion to subarus chassis level of integrity. Still very small to my own definition of powerful, but wanted to leave another year gone by to good advice. Take it or leave it.


                  I ordered new rear bearings a few years ago..could not believe it until I got them. These are quite large for a tiny body. I then concluded, engineering and chassis outcome did not meet together factually enough. A monster bolted up to tin to hold it.


                  I found the white beams similar in a honda 600. This subaru was missing something in the steel, this is it. much beyond 90hp or just a throttle curve set up to move quicker..the body breaks at the dog legs. this stops it. holds the driveshaft center carry. and of course, the 1987 steering is still the sharpest ratio steering even today. it was crazy then..and still is.



                  future content needed the hypermile hot chambers to disperse heat evenly. The chassis loves these headers. warm breeze symmetrically down the rails..

                  happy new year. stay alive. it is much more enjoyable.

                  the biggest death to these little waterboxer cars is the aurora of stereotype surrounding them. A number one place to get attacked is a runt talking shit with some form of formal automotive authority. Stay patient. I have resorted to voo doo religion for the thick skulled flunkies wrongfully speaking with an anus.
                  Last edited by Barry Donovan; December 22, 2012, 12:56 PM.
                  Previously boxer3main
                  the death rate and fairy tales cannot kill the nature left behind.

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                  • TheSilverBuick
                    ALMOST Spidey !
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 22145

                    #459
                    Going back a few days there are some deep thoughts there. Did I read you right, you might be getting rid of the suburu??
                    Escaped on a technicality.

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                    • Barry Donovan
                      No Life Outside BangShift.com
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 16928

                      #460
                      Originally posted by TheSilverBuick View Post
                      Going back a few days there are some deep thoughts there. Did I read you right, you might be getting rid of the suburu??

                      yeah. it got serious must be 15 or more years..seemed people were getting thrashed involuntary. Young at the time, I approached stuff as a mission..


                      going on 40, I want to go to my real joy of automotives. A diesel v8 of nearly any kind has my motivation as of now. I am hoping this is worth a spot where a truck or something sits around. Swap sometime..if one in reality sees the value is not going to decrease for this one, it wil be a good swap for both of us.

                      this car has something formally amazing to record. I may get to it.. I may let someone else go internet viral with it. Kicked alot of runt out of the way being what I be with it.

                      Being physics was part of sharing on the net..real world and physics and mechanics, is like a tropical monkey in arctica. Maine being as tough as it is with machinery has got to have the worlds dumbest midgets stepping up claiming knowledge. I really DO know where the old vehicles went..it sure as heck wasn't the cars' problems.

                      one of the huge things subaru found with the long run of this chassis is the gas tank being an electrical abyss. The loyale version is very white rust free and clean. America figured that out a long time ago, but subaru was in the late 80s by then. The cold burn in of new pump has lights like a blue dwarf star almost flckering to the new waves that can get around to real grounds. Essentially a giant loyale. sube gurus know what that means..its a good thing. I am expecting to wiggle aoruind some fusible links as the north pole statics need to learn. Been there many times with this..this year the tank and framing surrounding it marks a finale. the next burp on system juice is getting rear end where I want it. A brick right now. One would have to drive it to know just how tough I made it. The weight rating of oem springs cannot do what I have built anymore. The cold humors a stiff old spring for another winter..honda springs by the pair are less than 40 bucks delivered.

                      off to a new year...damn near new sube to go with it. I can almost relax with antique plates, no more douschebags with formal automotives and a mind of a 5 year old to attack it anymore.

                      as for carb getting through its first full solstice..excellence. the 8012s pump is just what the doctor ordered. I found someone staring at the car coming out of store, it does make quite a chatter on the little hollow bulkhead. will wrap it with maybe a mouse pad type material at the clamp. I wanted it full ground for burn in..ok to quiet it down now. The other fact of excellent gas tank material, is the juice allowed to stay lively..no more abyss.

                      up next first and foremost, the modern viton sealed power steering by a1 cordone. Was going to delay a winter..but that one on it is simply all done.
                      Last edited by Barry Donovan; December 22, 2012, 03:21 PM.
                      Previously boxer3main
                      the death rate and fairy tales cannot kill the nature left behind.

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                      • Dan Barlow
                        ZF6 Bangshifter
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 10603

                        #461
                        Barry, Truthfully I never looked at this thread because of the title. Never in my life could I imagine a one barrel carb worth fooling with but I finally gave it a shot today. It is quit interesting. Love the mods to get it to work.
                        Previously HoosierL98GTA

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                        • Barry Donovan
                          No Life Outside BangShift.com
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 16928

                          #462
                          Originally posted by HoosierL98GTA View Post
                          Barry, Truthfully I never looked at this thread because of the title. Never in my life could I imagine a one barrel carb worth fooling with but I finally gave it a shot today. It is quit interesting. Love the mods to get it to work.

                          any engine is about cfm. The funniest miscompiled of all time have been short stroke/big bore gm..I found an even sadder outcome with the little sube engine here, sucking through a straw a four stroke at 1000cc would have died with, nevermind 1781 flying on 3 main bearings.

                          my real fun is gm v8..I simply applied what I know..and learned a whole lot more science instead.

                          The biggest thing to overcome is people.. my god man.

                          subaru did get an overall number correct, 280cfm as natural.. I remembered the monojet seeming useless on everything, not once found on a four cylinder (the 43mm thorttle version)...at 250cfm, 3 inches vacuum. this means at 20 inches, 280 is pretty close by. perfect match, all by math written right.

                          the science part is partly asian steel, and the cali type smog rules on something suffocated very badly already. long term metallurgy in suffocation.. I suffered it all, only hoping for the best. live and learn. lucky for the sube they did make a very good engine casting eventually. That is what I am using now. tidy up the details, and move on..

                          like right now is the spring I have on choke pull. it got caught on the side of the carb.. I have little one plucked from parts bin, that fits just right, slap that in tomorrow. Only known error as of now- and it is trivial.

                          the solstice is a big deal in that the sube responds to cryogenics. my first big little sube was after a winter of breathing american sized. it needed the winter to squeeze that constipated bowel right out. this engine here is my biggest, and just coming around..looking forward to another spring.
                          Last edited by Barry Donovan; December 22, 2012, 08:26 PM.
                          Previously boxer3main
                          the death rate and fairy tales cannot kill the nature left behind.

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                          • Dan Barlow
                            ZF6 Bangshifter
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 10603

                            #463
                            I'm really getting to be a fan of the Subaru brand because of their 4 wheel / all wheel drives in what I call a light body. Nothing i own is under 3500 pounds. All wheel drives are a blast, It just snowed here thursday and we got to see what my wifes 97 bravada can do wife the all wheel drive. That technology is awesome in itself. Anyway , nice project and look forward to you playing with a 4.8
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                            • Barry Donovan
                              No Life Outside BangShift.com
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 16928

                              #464
                              Originally posted by HoosierL98GTA View Post
                              I'm really getting to be a fan of the Subaru brand because of their 4 wheel / all wheel drives in what I call a light body. Nothing i own is under 3500 pounds. All wheel drives are a blast, It just snowed here thursday and we got to see what my wifes 97 bravada can do wife the all wheel drive. That technology is awesome in itself. Anyway , nice project and look forward to you playing with a 4.8
                              bravada has some decent weight.
                              I wanted nothing less than the 80s G body.. I got sidetracked with a friends subaru hauling something way beyond itself. Tugging at airplanes with yukes in many tons, all the years of trucking... to this day, I have never ever seen anyhting come close to such a tiny engine going that far beyond itself. Ever. Still holds true, 25 yeras later, after all the techno babble, asian mishaps surrounding it..

                              I must get back to steel, its been fun, still fun...but for less than a double loss in fuel mileage, the gain in work is well worth it. Do alot more with an 8 as usual.

                              The real rarity if to simply break it down, 3 mains in real balance , full water cooling...it is very rare in world history. Real shame.
                              Last edited by Barry Donovan; December 23, 2012, 06:42 AM.
                              Previously boxer3main
                              the death rate and fairy tales cannot kill the nature left behind.

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                              • Barry Donovan
                                No Life Outside BangShift.com
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 16928

                                #465
                                no latch..made one


                                doors frozen today, climbed in through the back. tropical monkey in arctica…
                                put a little spring on the choke pull..no more getting hung up on the side of carb. Funny enough, the only time the big spring got hung up is in the cold..exactly when choke is needed the most. Big fuel pump, got a rich condition after pumping twice. I'll have to treat it like injection, only to pump once for choke shutting. I would love to find the real spring and latch for this…unknown to exist. For now, this ugliness is foolproof. looking forward to another carpocalyptic winter..I can speak less each year defending this little monkey, after surviving another one.

                                just another custom piece. the spring is from the internals of another monojet. Glad to have a heater in this one, the doors all freed up at the locks in a few minutes. This one wants to rid of all moisture..seems to coincide with tight fuel tank and bigger pump..the pipes underneath the belly..another phenomena. Glad its a simple one. For moisture to leave it seems to have to ride the doors and windows. loyale type runtime now..this is new for the old style tin.

                                setting that spring in a bit harder..there is less cough on quick romp on peddle. it must be a resistance setting for grounding choke, pulling up on emulsifier. my chevelle was goofy like that too..never messed with it. the four cyl is a bit more sensitive, and a whole lot bigger reaction.
                                Last edited by Barry Donovan; December 23, 2012, 12:11 PM.
                                Previously boxer3main
                                the death rate and fairy tales cannot kill the nature left behind.

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