12V 12A RELAY Air Temperature Sensor Board Thermal Switch

found this on ebay. 20 delivered.
45c (113F) to 99C adjustable.
this will work the intake to a temperature..but it has to stay in engine bay, sensor is only 1 foot of wire to work…and a waterproof box would need to be made. another oddity is no amp detect. the electric blanket controller works on amp reading to heat a bimeteal switch. As nature goes, a car chassis takes in more amps at some times and rejects at others (ground side of chassis, weather) I like that function. the big amp draw needs it. just this evening, journey the rock group playing in the fog and rain at the water front. they shut down at eleven and tinnitus ears go crazy. talk about amps. Being up on the taller part of the city, it reacts to every concert. So does the car. I may not go thermal switch at all, but leave the other clever function as it is. If it wants to feed easy, it will stay on longer, amps with a less resistant to ground keep switch engaged. That really is clever. Remembering too, this heats base of engine through pcv hose in a hurry. The contrast of real cold to warm is always slow gains on normal engines..I can only go so fast with the heat.
It does not hurt to wander into new stuff. the thermal pwm stuff is all tiny for fan controllers on computers, but a giant 8 amper must exist sometime. I'd use that for several things. Even fuel..imagine 80F fuel at all times? I do.
So to use this one I found I will have to drop the heater feed to a lesser volt… will keep looking, this is as automated as I could find.
A confusing thing to the engineers apparently is levelling off a temp needed. A stable volt to heater feed like a see saw dialing in to calm.Start off at full 12v, work down to level of temp needed and keep it there with however much exact volt needed to never have to shut off and on off and on, at least work to a barely an off and on. saves energy.
Below a set cold temp, full volt, big heat. cools down in a certain amount of time after acheiving setting..then kicks on again at a shorter interval with less volts to keep heater down by reducing volts to heater the second time. Then do that again and again until a set volt into the heat returns a balanced function for the temp needed. Why is that confusing? not sure. I wish I could speak electronic babble, I’d build it myself. A loop function that self learns…work to zero with given data..level off with a perfect volt setting of stable on. perhaps a switch to reset, although the cold setting should kick heater right back in to full volt, cycle all over again.
ever notice that with houses and cars and fans in the pc? off and on, off and on, off and on, off and on, high low high low high low. medium low high off low medioum high and off. can't make up its damn mind even when they try to be smart with it. why not just level the damn yo yo off?
how to build this electronically? it would end up a box with mosfets and coolers I presume, a chip guiding things. diodes.. above is just a theoretical calibration. that is something someone will have to do just once on their own.
on a positive note. cold start to the summer type run is less than 10 minutes with intake heater on high. The thing that gets me is in rain, or cool weather, the amp reader triggers off heater sooner..exactly when heat is needed the most. That does lead to a lesson. Cold and damp, car draws more amps for every object drawing, even headlamps. neat huh? goes undetected, one has to unintentionally find that like I did. Even though the amp read, triggers bimetal, it gets hotter sooner knowing the car can demand more. It's like finding the whole picture. not just positive and negative.
cold is as much a battle as heat, even more intense as Maine taught me.
some other runtime notes..as this ea series is runted everywhere but my own apparently.
the throttle on is huge gulp, its in the decibals, much like tradition we all know in any size engine bumped up into a bigger realm. When a boxer does that..its the legend only a boxer can give.The EA engine was so runted, when you let off the throttle the exhuast got louder scvanging more air into a two inch exhaust than it did feeding the carb wide open. it is a source of comical for those of us that know better.
if one never has a dyno experimenting with the EA. you will know the turning point to a normal run. the throttle on is much bigger than the scavenge off...and that means some serious efficient to go with some extra power. I am getting old. I set timing by ear like the idle air. Timing gun? I don't even own one. I have made my own tools before owning a timing gun.
elderly person babble aside. (age 40 in maine is elderly). You know, it was not funny, when at 22 years old someone guessed my age to be 40 back then. I worked outside year round.
I found a site that lists maine as the third coldest state in the nation. north dakota has it beat by .6 of 1 degree.
41F average yearly temperature. after the yoyo of ups and downs is analyzed..it ends up at 41F.
maybe I should make the intake heater 300w instead of 200 by adding its own tag along generator in the back.
this time of year, tells me all years of an older engine. this one has never had big air, or the egr cylinder at full compress. I was impressed taking oilpan off to make the pickup some more room..nice and clean, egr cylinder was slightly dirty. this is what is cleaning out in the first cold, demanding a big start every start, no runting again. my first engine took one winter entirely to get over this.
A car shed all winter like a dog in the spring..a boxer engine has an opposite in that it does not eat much if carbed. I like it again for another reason.
people and animals this time of year, hoard in like a bear to fatten up. Cars lose wieght...as if to be no choice but a sharp blade in the cold. Right now, I got pancakes french fries two eggs and hamburger gong at 130pm. lunch ? breakfast? no. just a snack. the car on the other hand is squeezing a cylinder from 1991..
anyway, onto other thoughts about temps. a channel called vsauce on youtube, mostly nerd stuff but a recent thermal video got my interest. the word draper is heat equal to 976F and beyond. That is what I put the subes rear end at this year, very bright, almost see through. Funny enough, the subframing and reskinning channels, adding baffles. Nowhere near as lively as the rear end crossmember. this means content of course, no need to completely change a good thing. for steel, that is all one can do to reset it...about 1000F. Sterile is only one thing that happens..the frequency change is the other. this video actually speaks of the frequency. the livelier the steel problem, the "other" stuff that left it is the chance for hazard. nuclear element for example. I thought that was good info to watch. I still check the ground and even trees near my welds. (I like to stay close to earth with it). in relation to carb and ignition. steel gets very imprtant. All frequency related. There is chassis that actually stomp at an airbleed whistle (bad chassis of course). That is why race cars seem even livelier. the steel is very hard on a real build, letting what we built function. it is more difficult than talking about.
update:
if you read this far..
I found the specs on the relay of the above thermal control. 12A or 15A, eithe rone works for me. I also found you can split the load, dual 12volt in. this means switching and brain is on another side of relay. leaves load away from the board doing the thinking. I may go for this sooner than later. As of now, I built a similar version out of a pc power supply switch and the electro warmth blanket controller. Reads amps to set a thermal. primitive..but very safe. The above would be interesting for thermal. As at 70F internal duct temp..it can stay off. The ea82 can achieve that right into the 30s F by itself, but the little stroke is like a vacuum cleaner, never ending, no pulse or pause. Heat it up like a big engine does naturally, and all is well. (Heater is needed to help it.)
found this on ebay. 20 delivered.
45c (113F) to 99C adjustable.
this will work the intake to a temperature..but it has to stay in engine bay, sensor is only 1 foot of wire to work…and a waterproof box would need to be made. another oddity is no amp detect. the electric blanket controller works on amp reading to heat a bimeteal switch. As nature goes, a car chassis takes in more amps at some times and rejects at others (ground side of chassis, weather) I like that function. the big amp draw needs it. just this evening, journey the rock group playing in the fog and rain at the water front. they shut down at eleven and tinnitus ears go crazy. talk about amps. Being up on the taller part of the city, it reacts to every concert. So does the car. I may not go thermal switch at all, but leave the other clever function as it is. If it wants to feed easy, it will stay on longer, amps with a less resistant to ground keep switch engaged. That really is clever. Remembering too, this heats base of engine through pcv hose in a hurry. The contrast of real cold to warm is always slow gains on normal engines..I can only go so fast with the heat.
It does not hurt to wander into new stuff. the thermal pwm stuff is all tiny for fan controllers on computers, but a giant 8 amper must exist sometime. I'd use that for several things. Even fuel..imagine 80F fuel at all times? I do.
So to use this one I found I will have to drop the heater feed to a lesser volt… will keep looking, this is as automated as I could find.
A confusing thing to the engineers apparently is levelling off a temp needed. A stable volt to heater feed like a see saw dialing in to calm.Start off at full 12v, work down to level of temp needed and keep it there with however much exact volt needed to never have to shut off and on off and on, at least work to a barely an off and on. saves energy.
Below a set cold temp, full volt, big heat. cools down in a certain amount of time after acheiving setting..then kicks on again at a shorter interval with less volts to keep heater down by reducing volts to heater the second time. Then do that again and again until a set volt into the heat returns a balanced function for the temp needed. Why is that confusing? not sure. I wish I could speak electronic babble, I’d build it myself. A loop function that self learns…work to zero with given data..level off with a perfect volt setting of stable on. perhaps a switch to reset, although the cold setting should kick heater right back in to full volt, cycle all over again.
ever notice that with houses and cars and fans in the pc? off and on, off and on, off and on, off and on, high low high low high low. medium low high off low medioum high and off. can't make up its damn mind even when they try to be smart with it. why not just level the damn yo yo off?

how to build this electronically? it would end up a box with mosfets and coolers I presume, a chip guiding things. diodes.. above is just a theoretical calibration. that is something someone will have to do just once on their own.
on a positive note. cold start to the summer type run is less than 10 minutes with intake heater on high. The thing that gets me is in rain, or cool weather, the amp reader triggers off heater sooner..exactly when heat is needed the most. That does lead to a lesson. Cold and damp, car draws more amps for every object drawing, even headlamps. neat huh? goes undetected, one has to unintentionally find that like I did. Even though the amp read, triggers bimetal, it gets hotter sooner knowing the car can demand more. It's like finding the whole picture. not just positive and negative.
cold is as much a battle as heat, even more intense as Maine taught me.
some other runtime notes..as this ea series is runted everywhere but my own apparently.
the throttle on is huge gulp, its in the decibals, much like tradition we all know in any size engine bumped up into a bigger realm. When a boxer does that..its the legend only a boxer can give.The EA engine was so runted, when you let off the throttle the exhuast got louder scvanging more air into a two inch exhaust than it did feeding the carb wide open. it is a source of comical for those of us that know better.

if one never has a dyno experimenting with the EA. you will know the turning point to a normal run. the throttle on is much bigger than the scavenge off...and that means some serious efficient to go with some extra power. I am getting old. I set timing by ear like the idle air. Timing gun? I don't even own one. I have made my own tools before owning a timing gun.
elderly person babble aside. (age 40 in maine is elderly). You know, it was not funny, when at 22 years old someone guessed my age to be 40 back then. I worked outside year round.
I found a site that lists maine as the third coldest state in the nation. north dakota has it beat by .6 of 1 degree.
41F average yearly temperature. after the yoyo of ups and downs is analyzed..it ends up at 41F.
maybe I should make the intake heater 300w instead of 200 by adding its own tag along generator in the back.
this time of year, tells me all years of an older engine. this one has never had big air, or the egr cylinder at full compress. I was impressed taking oilpan off to make the pickup some more room..nice and clean, egr cylinder was slightly dirty. this is what is cleaning out in the first cold, demanding a big start every start, no runting again. my first engine took one winter entirely to get over this.
A car shed all winter like a dog in the spring..a boxer engine has an opposite in that it does not eat much if carbed. I like it again for another reason.
people and animals this time of year, hoard in like a bear to fatten up. Cars lose wieght...as if to be no choice but a sharp blade in the cold. Right now, I got pancakes french fries two eggs and hamburger gong at 130pm. lunch ? breakfast? no. just a snack. the car on the other hand is squeezing a cylinder from 1991..
anyway, onto other thoughts about temps. a channel called vsauce on youtube, mostly nerd stuff but a recent thermal video got my interest. the word draper is heat equal to 976F and beyond. That is what I put the subes rear end at this year, very bright, almost see through. Funny enough, the subframing and reskinning channels, adding baffles. Nowhere near as lively as the rear end crossmember. this means content of course, no need to completely change a good thing. for steel, that is all one can do to reset it...about 1000F. Sterile is only one thing that happens..the frequency change is the other. this video actually speaks of the frequency. the livelier the steel problem, the "other" stuff that left it is the chance for hazard. nuclear element for example. I thought that was good info to watch. I still check the ground and even trees near my welds. (I like to stay close to earth with it). in relation to carb and ignition. steel gets very imprtant. All frequency related. There is chassis that actually stomp at an airbleed whistle (bad chassis of course). That is why race cars seem even livelier. the steel is very hard on a real build, letting what we built function. it is more difficult than talking about.
update:
if you read this far..
I found the specs on the relay of the above thermal control. 12A or 15A, eithe rone works for me. I also found you can split the load, dual 12volt in. this means switching and brain is on another side of relay. leaves load away from the board doing the thinking. I may go for this sooner than later. As of now, I built a similar version out of a pc power supply switch and the electro warmth blanket controller. Reads amps to set a thermal. primitive..but very safe. The above would be interesting for thermal. As at 70F internal duct temp..it can stay off. The ea82 can achieve that right into the 30s F by itself, but the little stroke is like a vacuum cleaner, never ending, no pulse or pause. Heat it up like a big engine does naturally, and all is well. (Heater is needed to help it.)



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