Vanity post removed from Drag Week Rules thread (straight out of "Farmville")

[38P]

Just in case you're curious as to what the "pompous drivel" illustrating the point about the "slippery slope" of rules changes was . . . .

Welcoming that non-stock Fairlane was NASCAR's "original sin" that led to:

(1) Common, non-stock chassis specs (Galaxie front suspension, truck arm rear suspension);
(2) Non-production fabricated frames;
(3) Lengthened wheelbases on downsized "NASCARS" starting in 1981;
(4) GM FWDs converted to RWD for NASCAR (1986 Buick LeSabre & 1988 Regal, Chevrolet Lumina/Monte Carlo/"Wimpala," 1988-end Pontiac Grand Prix, 1988-end Oldsmobile Cutlass);
(5) Wider-than-production GM tail sections (GM-10s, Lumina, FWD Monte Carlo, "Wimpala");
(6) Non-production fabricated body sides;
(7) The aforementioned two-door, RWD Taurus (over a decade after NASCAR had legalized similar combinations for GM);
( 8 ) Repackaging the Taurus "aero package" as a "Dodge Charger" (thanks Penske and Evernham);
(9) Non-production Dodge NASCAR engine;
(10) Non-production cylinder heads on GM's SB-2 engine
(11) RWD Toyota "Camry" using non-production engine and body based on NASCAR specs;
(12) Non-production GM R07 engine;
(13) The rolling "common template" abortion known as the "Car of Tomorrow;"
(14) Non-production Ford FR9 engine.

Curiously enough, NASCAR's long trip away from production car racing began only a couple of years after NASCAR waffled on the non-production 1963 Chevrolet "Mystery Motor" (Mark II BBC) and the 1964 Gen II Hemi -- all for the sake of gate receipts.

[ls7gto]

Blah blah blah > ford always being picked on < blah blah blah

[SpiderGearsMan]

they really really needed chevrolet there ..yates [DART] heads were never an option on a ford , in 91 they allowed the thunderbird to raise the quarter panels , IN 94 THEY LET FORD CHOP THE TOP
so what , the racing keeps getting worse

too bad they couldn't bend the rules for bankrupt dodge in late 70s

[JeffMcKC]

You guys have missed his point, he posted this in the Drag Week thread as reasons to change the Class structure of Drag Week. Was called out on it and edited his post. To try to make sence and plus ry to get some hugs over here.

Its even weak here and seen for what it is.

[SpiderGearsMan]

thought drag week only had safety rules

maybe he has hopes for a cobra jet to beat larsen lol

[tedly]

People still watch NASCAR?

[Brian Lohnes]

Speedy always picks the weird hills to die on.

[Stich496]

but is he technacally right...? or is only some parts of drag history worthy

[JeffMcKC]

Anyone else see a pattern here?

[38P]

Blah blah blah > ford always being picked on < blah blah blah

The point wasn't "Ford gets picked on."
FORD DEMANDING A NON-STOCK CONCESSION WAS THE PROBLEM.

Had NASCAR stayed true to a production formula, it wouldn't be the irrelevant mess that it is today.

[Bamfster]

NASCAR .... who cares?!

[38P]

thought drag week only had safety rules

maybe he has hopes for a cobra jet to beat larsen lol

No and No. Although I do point out that Larson works on the Roush/Yates-powered Aeromotive Mustang doorslammer and could certainly win DW with a Ford if he so chose (and if I ran Ford Racing, I'd pay him to do just that)

[38P]

Speedy always picks the weird hills to die on.

Those are the only kind we have here in "Farmville" . . . .

[38P]

they really really needed chevrolet there ..yates [DART] heads were never an option on a ford , in 91 they allowed the thunderbird to raise the quarter panels , IN 94 THEY LET FORD CHOP THE TOP
so what , the racing keeps getting worse

too bad they couldn't bend the rules for bankrupt dodge in late 70s

The Yates heads were an obvious derivative of the Cleveland head (it was simply a casting based on how Yates had previously modified the aluminum version of the SVO head, which was a Cleveland head with slightly improved ports . . . based again on how racers modified production Cleveland heads). It was unlike the totally non-production SB2 head, which was totally different from the traditional SBC head. Yates heads bolted on to a production SBF block (the last production-based engine in NASCAR). They had an FRPP part number.

That being said, I don't think they should have been allowed. Stock car racing should use parts that are RPO, except as necessary for safety. And even the safety stuff should fit on/in the street cars and be sold to the general public. Period.

BTW, they did "bend the rules" for bankrupt Dodge in the '70s, allowing Petty to run the Charger a year past the original cut-off before forcing him into the porky Magnum and then the waiting arms of GM. Truth be told, had Chrysler's checks kept coming, I suspect Petty would have stayed with Dodge and jawboned NASCAR into a rules adjustment.

[38P]

You guys have missed his point, he posted this in the Drag Week thread as reasons to change the Class structure of Drag Week..

Not true. It came up in an argument over allowing turbos in Match Bash because turbos were allowed and sometimes used in 1960s gassers (e.g. Mallicott Brothers, Ohio George Montgomery, Bud Faubel). You mentioned NASCAR as an example of the slippery slope of rules changes (the four-door Taurus) when all my "slippery slope" examples had been from drag racing. I merely put your NASCAR reference in its proper historical context. Then you griped that it was "pompous drivel." So I moved it to a separate thread to diffuse the controversy.