The Pontiac OHC Six

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  • TheSilverBuick
    ALMOST Spidey !
    • Nov 2007
    • 22145

    #166
    Re: The Pontiac OHC Six

    No and No :'( :'( I got to get on that!

    You wouldn't happen to know the shipping costs on those headers would you? (89301) My only thing is, they probably aren't very close for a turbo application, and are probably worth more money to sell to some one to use them as is rather than me hack and cut them.

    I haven't looked too hard at piston availability. There are a few people that have turbo'd etc these engines on the OHC forum, so there may be a source for them.
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    • horsewidower
      Superhero BangShifter
      • Apr 2008
      • 2319

      #167
      Re: The Pontiac OHC Six

      Sonic check the cylinder walls before you decide to bore it .060. I prefer as much meat as possible.

      Your money is better spent fitting a custom piston to a thick cylinder wall than boring to an unacceptably thin wall in order to fit less expensive commonly available pistons.

      I really don't see high rpm having a place in this build. Boost it and gear it to go fast. Don't spin it.

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      • milner351
        No Life Outside BangShift.com
        • Nov 2007
        • 16033

        #168
        Re: The Pontiac OHC Six

        ^^^^ yea what he said.

        These things don't grow on trees - machine with great care.
        There's always something new to learn.

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        • TheSilverBuick
          ALMOST Spidey !
          • Nov 2007
          • 22145

          #169
          Re: The Pontiac OHC Six

          I'll definately have the cylinder thicknesses checked. Internet rumor is some people are punching these out to a 4.00" Bore :o But that's not the route I intend to go. I am perfectly OK leaving the parts(dimensions) alone and letting the turbo do the work. On that same token, I really really want to see some rpm in this thing. It's OHC and I want it to spin until it's cost me a small fortune. The turbo is supposed to be the airflow crutch for the small ports that limit it's rpm.

          Not the route I intend to go, but check out this intake/exhaust set up, looks slick.
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          • milner351
            No Life Outside BangShift.com
            • Nov 2007
            • 16033

            #170
            Re: The Pontiac OHC Six

            are those headers custom made?

            if not - those could be a good place to start.

            if you are planning on cutting up the headers anyway - I could cut mine up and send them to you in a smaller box! ;D
            There's always something new to learn.

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            • Monk
              Legendary BangShifter
              • Nov 2007
              • 6722

              #171
              Re: The Pontiac OHC Six

              Originally posted by TheSilverBuick
              I'll definately have the cylinder thicknesses checked. Internet rumor is some people are punching these out to a 4.00" Bore :o But that's not the route I intend to go. I am perfectly OK leaving the parts(dimensions) alone and letting the turbo do the work. On that same token, I really really want to see some rpm in this thing. It's OHC and I want it to spin until it's cost me a small fortune. The turbo is supposed to be the airflow crutch for the small ports that limit it's rpm.

              Not the route I intend to go, but check out this intake/exhaust set up, looks slick.
              Aw man.......that's sweet!
              Thom

              "The object is to keep your balls on the table and knock everybody else's off..."

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              • TheSilverBuick
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                • Nov 2007
                • 22145

                #172
                Re: The Pontiac OHC Six

                I figured I'd keep my stuff simple. Run the exhaust "header" pipes to right next to the block and bolt the turbo to them, then figure out a nice intake set up for the EFI, you know, probably straight pipe for a few inches before the actual head port with the injectors some where in there. It's going to be dirt simple and probably side ways mounted throttle body form a V8 car in the junkyard. I'm definately using an intercooler.
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                • milner351
                  No Life Outside BangShift.com
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 16033

                  #173
                  Re: The Pontiac OHC Six

                  You put a welder on your Christmas list didn't you?
                  There's always something new to learn.

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                  • TheSilverBuick
                    ALMOST Spidey !
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 22145

                    #174
                    Re: The Pontiac OHC Six

                    Every other week is Christmas if I let it :P I just have to bring myself to go shopping.
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                    • TheSilverBuick
                      ALMOST Spidey !
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 22145

                      #175
                      Re: The Pontiac OHC Six

                      Just dropping some information off so I have it all in one place ;D





                      The actual port volume of a '69 1bbl head is 110cc for the intake and 85cc for the exhaust.
                      250 Bore = 3.875
                      250 Stroke = 3.531

                      Intake Valve = 1.920
                      Exhaust Valve = 1.600

                      Chamber sizes: The chambers we've measured all are larger than the published values. We have measured the 1-BBl at ~80 cc and the 4-Bbl at ~68-70.
                      I'm also following the same parts formula for boosting the OHC. I started out with a '69 1bbl head with flattop L2314F pistons, then changed to a '67 4bbl head for the better flow. This required that I machine a 35cc dish into the tops of my pistons. After verifying that the top of the piston would still have enough meat left after carving out the dish, I machined the dishes to match the shape of the combustion chamber, keeping the quench pads on both sides of the chamber. So now I have 8.3:1 c.r.,
                      Family-owned, world-class piston manufacturer and machine shop that specializes in domestic vehicle pistons, water pumps, etc.


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                      • horsewidower
                        Superhero BangShifter
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 2319

                        #176
                        Re: The Pontiac OHC Six

                        I don't think you need to go as low as 8.3:1

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                        • squirrel
                          Benevolent Ruler of the Universe
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 19334

                          #177
                          Re: The Pontiac OHC Six

                          might, with such a crappy chamber design and gobs of boost

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                          • TheSilverBuick
                            ALMOST Spidey !
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 22145

                            #178
                            Re: The Pontiac OHC Six

                            It's just some notes. I picked up a harmonic balancer puller today, so I'm going to go pop that off and also drain the oil while I remember, that's right, it's still full of oil :D
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                            • horsewidower
                              Superhero BangShifter
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 2319

                              #179
                              Re: The Pontiac OHC Six

                              It'll be pretty soggy off boost. But, your point is well taken.

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                              • TheSilverBuick
                                ALMOST Spidey !
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 22145

                                #180
                                Re: The Pontiac OHC Six

                                Advertised compression is 8.75:1, so it's probably 8.5'ish stock.
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