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  • Pumpkin
    Legendary BangShifter
    • Oct 2007
    • 6600

    #16
    Re: The Silver Buick wants a garage.

    Originally posted by TubbedCamaro
    Originally posted by IRONHEAD
    Originally posted by TheSilverBuick
    Yeah, but I want to build a six to twelve car garage. It has to run the long axis of the lot. Plus I don't want it really visible from the front of the house nor block my view of the hills from the house windows. If I can get away with it and afford it, I want to build a 40'x60' ;D
    haha have you got a quote on the taxes on that um. shop
    I'm sure the taxes in Ely are pretty cheap. ;)
    Yeah, you got to remember, not all states have the same laws and taxes as Taxachusetts. Refer to the thread about driving the backhoe on the street as to the laws.
    "Somewhere the zebra is dancing". Garth Stein's The art of racing in the rain.

    Matt

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    • TheSilverBuick
      ALMOST Spidey !
      • Nov 2007
      • 22145

      #17
      Re: The Silver Buick wants a garage.

      Originally posted by TubbedCamaro
      Originally posted by IRONHEAD
      Originally posted by TheSilverBuick
      Yeah, but I want to build a six to twelve car garage. It has to run the long axis of the lot. Plus I don't want it really visible from the front of the house nor block my view of the hills from the house windows. If I can get away with it and afford it, I want to build a 40'x60' ;D
      haha have you got a quote on the taxes on that um. shop
      I'm sure the taxes in Ely are pretty cheap. ;)
      My 12,000sqft lot with 850sqft home run me $425-$450/yr in property taxes and ~$30/mo city taxes. I've never heard anyone ever complain about the taxes here, so I'm not worried about taxes. (besides, since we don't pay a state income tax I can afford a bit more on the property tax :P :D)

      As for the rock, Dude, I'm a geologist, it's the first thing I looked at :PI've dug with a regular shovel down about 5 vertical feet right behind my fence and the dirt was still fill from what I'm guess the developer levelling the hill for the housing track. Because of the depth I expect it to carry out at least half way across the lot if not 75% of it. My friend running the backhoe is skilled at digging fresh bed rock, sometimes you can, sometimes you can't, but if there is a way he'll make it happen.

      Compaction is a must I know. I intend on building a retaining wall at the bottom of the hill to hold the fill too. Fortunately for me, our projects engineer at work (read office down the hall from mine) used to be the City Engineer for Ely and say's I can bounce ideas off him and he'll give me guidance on the regulations and rules, etc. He also lives about two blocks from me (same housing track). So I'm sure he'll keep me in line well before the guberment does. He knows roughly what I want to do.

      As for the building, the 40x60 is what I want, but I don't know until the dirt work is done what will be feasible. I may end up with smaller, who knows. Also Chad was telling me that the way to really do it is call around and see if the people who make steel buildings have any already fabbed up for a customer that backed out to get one on the cheap. Sometimes they are odd sizes, like 34x54, etc, but if they are ~50% off, it'll do! There are at least three steel building companies that advertise on the local radio station, so for once I may have options! haha.

      I brought the laser home with me ;D Maybe when I get done with the T-bird I'll set it up, or perhaps tomorrow, I was told the data collector needed to be charged.
      Escaped on a technicality.

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      • SpiderGearsMan
        No Life Outside BangShift.com
        • Oct 2007
        • 22359

        #18
        Re: The Silver Buick wants a garage.

        looks like a silver mine would be better in that backyard

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        • SpiderGearsMan
          No Life Outside BangShift.com
          • Oct 2007
          • 22359

          #19
          Re: The Silver Buick wants a garage.

          nice spread , my NJ rent money would go a long way in Ely

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          • TheSilverBuick
            ALMOST Spidey !
            • Nov 2007
            • 22145

            #20
            Re: The Silver Buick wants a garage.

            Originally posted by SpiderGearsMan
            looks like a silver mine would be better in that backyard
            :D

            We took one of our contract geologist out to the area where we are drilling, and it's a nice looking hill with some trees on it, and he says, "That's Beautiful! We should put a mine there!" haha.

            Yep, the data collector's battery was dead, it's charging now, so I'll probably get to it tomorrow.
            Escaped on a technicality.

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            • 88 Dippy
              Superhero BangShifter
              • Jan 2010
              • 717

              #21
              Re: The Silver Buick wants a garage.

              i still like the bat cave option lol


              i want to build a shop in my back yard but my parents say no lol :D

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              • SpiderGearsMan
                No Life Outside BangShift.com
                • Oct 2007
                • 22359

                #22
                Re: The Silver Buick wants a garage.

                STAY THERE ANOTHER 20 YEARS ..they may say yes

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                • TheSilverBuick
                  ALMOST Spidey !
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 22145

                  #23
                  Re: The Silver Buick wants a garage.

                  Haha.
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                  • rightpedal
                    Superhero BangShifter
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 1258

                    #24
                    Re: The Silver Buick wants a garage.

                    What about a partial bat cave? What I gather is the shop is wants to be 40 by 60 but the grade is keeping you from a full pad. So how are placing the shop on the property? As example: Why not pour a 40 by 44 pad and set framing on level for the last sixteen feet over a block basement at what ever depth would make up the grade distance (8,12,14 feet). It would one hell of a storage area below. At sixteen feet span you could beam it in the middle with columns reducing the span to 8 ft. Set 3 by 14 I beams 12" OC with double 1 1/4 TnG ply. You could park a tank on it! I will bug the engineer at my lumber co about some load # when I get off vacation (James hates when I walk in with a grin!).

                    Steve
                    Well I have stopped buying stuff for cars I don't own. Is that a step in the right or wrong direction?

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                    • IRONHEAD

                      #25
                      Re: The Silver Buick wants a garage.

                      Originally posted by rightpedal
                      What about a partial bat cave? What I gather is the shop is wants to be 40 by 60 but the grade is keeping you from a full pad. So how are placing the shop on the property? As example: Why not pour a 40 by 44 pad and set framing on level for the last sixteen feet over a block basement at what ever depth would make up the grade distance (8,12,14 feet). It would one hell of a storage area below. At sixteen feet span you could beam it in the middle with columns reducing the span to 8 ft. Set 3 by 14 I beams 12" OC with double 1 1/4 TnG ply. You could park a tank on it! I will bug the engineer at my lumber co about some load # when I get off vacation (James hates when I walk in with a grin!).

                      Steve
                      well you said it better than I did

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                      • Aircooled
                        Superhero BangShifter
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 981

                        #26
                        Re: The Silver Buick wants a garage.

                        Make at least 20' of it 2-story with double doors on the 2nd floor facing the house. Then use a couple of 4 post lifts as elevators to move the cars up and down. Place 3 double doors on the back at grade for bat cave getaways.

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                        • TheSilverBuick
                          ALMOST Spidey !
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 22145

                          #27
                          Re: The Silver Buick wants a garage.

                          I can see doing the block basement over fill for the last 8-16ft, since I intended to make the far end of the shop a clean room/storage space, so it doesn't necessarily need a level drive in front of it. Clearly since I haven't scoped the building yet I don't know what I'll be doing for door arraignments, but ideally I'd like to have as much flat driveway in front of the building as possible, and putting on stilts or raising it up so the enclosed work area is on the second floor limits access to the width of the building and I want access on the length of it. Basically I don't want any large percentage of the building on stilts or raised up.

                          Thanks for the block idea as a partial basement, it's how my house is done.


                          Originally posted by Aircooled
                          Make at least 20' of it 2-story with double doors on the 2nd floor facing the house. Then use a couple of 4 post lifts as elevators to move the cars up and down. Place 3 double doors on the back at grade for bat cave getaways.
                          That's too James Bond'ish :P Besides, my upper yard I want to have grass and making the tight turn over it to pull into an upper level would tear that up pretty quickly I think.
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                          • KeithTurk
                            Moderator
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 5209

                            #28
                            Re: The Silver Buick wants a garage.

                            Randal.... I need to get you some pictures of my lay out... it's about like your talking about...

                            hmmmm I have a drive that was dug into the ground up on the hill and leveled down to my shop in back that's 10' plus below my house....

                            K

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                            • TheSilverBuick
                              ALMOST Spidey !
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 22145

                              #29
                              Re: The Silver Buick wants a garage.

                              Yeah I'd like to see that.


                              Got the laser and data collector all set up, but I guess I didn't give the data collector enough time on the charger and by the time I remembered how to use the dang thing properly (the settings, setting the base point and back sight, etc) the battery was wanting to give up. So I got it plugged back in, all the settings are now programmed in, so all I should have to do tomorrow is set up in the same spot and start clicking away. I'm going to double my work, I'm going to do one survey of the tops of the lath's and a second survey of shots directly of the ground where visible. I drove all the lath I intend on shooting in the same depth into the ground. I just have to re-upright the ones starting to blow over :P

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                              • TheSilverBuick
                                ALMOST Spidey !
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 22145

                                #30
                                Re: The Silver Buick wants a garage.

                                Well got it done today. Between surveying in the tops of the lath and directly on the dirt I got 285 points. That should give me a good set of data to contour with. Unfortunately I don't have any software on my personal computer to work with it :'( I may have to bring the work laptop home tomorrow ;D

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