BBR's 83GT - 552 BBF version 3.0 (at least)

[Beagle]

Bill, I really need to stop looking at A460 headed builds! Seems like you can almost do everything wrong and still make 800hp. lol

A cylinder head swap to possibly P51's has been lurking in the back of my mind for a while now, but dang, the A460's are competitive price-wise and then you still have room to grow far beyond a P51's capability.

oh but a P51 or A460 head would leave those HORRIBLE TFS heads for the truck... just sayin..

/edit - don't do it, you'll have to redo the cage.

[BBR]

I like the way you think Beagle.

[milner351]

10.46 isn't enough?

[BBR]

Is it ever? haha

Truthfully, I'd like to be able to run 10.0's and tickle the 9.90's in mineshaft air without any trouble. Probably do-able with the current heads if ported and a different cam, but where's the fun in that? haha

For now though, it's just ideas in my head. My hot rod budget is currently being wrecked by a certain F250....

[CDMBill]

When you are ready, let me know there are a few things that make the difference between an easy 800 and an easy 900.

I thought you wanted to run 10.0 at the home track in the worst air ever seen in those parts.

[BBR]

Haha. I try to be pessimistic so I can be pleasantly surprised when it exceeds my expectations.

[Dignlif]

Bill, I really need to stop looking at A460 headed builds! Seems like you can almost do everything wrong and still make 800hp. lol

A cylinder head swap to possibly P51's has been lurking in the back of my mind for a while now, but dang, the A460's are competitive price-wise and then you still have room to grow far beyond a P51's capability.

Oh come on don't start this crap...I was mentally setting myself up to be very happy with a P51 build with a coming short block and now you're telling me I could spend a bit more on an A460 setup and get 8-900 hp...ugh

[BBR]

Rich, I hate to say it, but if you are starting from scratch, you might really look at some of the A460 builds. I mean either head requires a dedicated piston (or someone real handy with a fly cutter) and if you gotta buy headers and an intake too, it's pretty much a wash. I have seen some pretty nice deals lately on used stuff. BUT if you look at used stuff, just remember the A-head has been around a long time and has been slowly improved throughout the years.


My current area of focus is transmission cooling though. I really need a better cooler.

[Dignlif]

Yup from the scratch point, that makes sense. Talking to Bill it sounded like there might be some other high dollar stuff needed in the valve train area and with a pre-fox body, I would have to have the headers made.

The short block I have coming is already setup and dyno tested. It's running pistons for the SCJ or P51 heads so I will be targeting the P51's. I'm sure it will still be light years better than the low compression 400hp I have now though so I'm super excited at the future prospect of my car leaping into the 10's, hopefully deep.

Of course what will happen is that I'll wind up int he teens and won't be able to stop looking toward the 9's and the whole process starts again...as you said in reply to John's comment "10.46 isn't enough?"..." Is it ever? "

For trans cooler, I added the Derale with thermostat controlled fan and moved it to the back of the car away from the radiator.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/der-13950/overview/

[BBR]

Very cool! I didn't know you had already started the process. P51's are a fantastic cylinder head in their own right. Those suckers can move some air. What cubic inch is the short block? That car's gonna fly with a BBF!

I really wish I had space under the car to mount a trans cooler! I might have to get creative.

[CDMBill]

I'm going to mount mine up in the fender behind the plastic inner liner on the passenger side of the Fox. The goal being as little weight out over the nose as possible. There may be a spot by the driver's side back by the stock gas tank. I'm not sure yet on that one. Plate style cooler, Earl's in my case has really worked well with -8 lines. 5800 stall, worst situation is True Street in 100 plus heat. Fan fixed it.

[Dignlif]

Very cool! I didn't know you had already started the process. P51's are a fantastic cylinder head in their own right. Those suckers can move some air. What cubic inch is the short block? That car's gonna fly with a BBF!

521 - it dyno'd 713 at 6800 with 10:1 compression using out of box SCJ's so I'm diggin it. Guessing I could increase compression a bit (11 ~ 11.5) by shaving some off the heads but I'll discuss that with you, Bill and a machine shop when the time comes. It'll still take me some time to get the heads and everything else but it's a start.

[BBR]

713! That thing is gonna be fun! That's more steam than I'm making for sure!

[BBR]

I'm thinking about mounting a 2006-ish Mustang trans cooler mounted somewhere under the car. They are a plate style, and are pretty long. I could weld some tabs to the subframe connectors to mount one under the passenger seat area. That would keep the lines short and they would not have to run all the way up front like they do now. Then again one might fit well low up front, it would just be a PITA to get it in there.

I thought about using an ac condenser as a giant trans cooler mounted up front. I did that on a Ranger one time. Worked pretty good on it.

[squirrel]

you probably want a big cooler up front, not a small one under the car....what stall speed you running?