When did they quit putting drain plugs in radiators?

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  • squirrel
    Benevolent Ruler of the Universe
    • Nov 2007
    • 19334

    #1

    When did they quit putting drain plugs in radiators?

    drove wife's 08 silverado today, it complained about being hot and told me it would not let me use the AC. I looked at the temp gage, said cold. I felt the hoses, looked at coolant level, all seems normal. I'm guessing the computer is not getting good temp sensor data...so I figured I'd throw a part at it. I went to drain the coolant a bit, there's no drain plug! there's a place for it, but the hole is not drilled or threaded.

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  • TC
    Banned
    • Nov 2007
    • 11805

    #2
    We asked a member of the Edmunds Data Team, and he reports...

    "As silly as it may sound, it has been indicated on several forums that drain petcocks were excluded from the radiators on several GM trucks as a cost-cutting measure. In a cooling system where there is no radiator drain, the lower radiator hose can be pulled off -- a bit messier, but it gets the job done."

    Hope that helps!
    Yap just yank the lower hose...........

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    • squirrel
      Benevolent Ruler of the Universe
      • Nov 2007
      • 19334

      #3
      I haven't dove under yet to see if they put drain plugs on the block. Her 99 doesn't have them, but it's an LS, this new truck has the old 4.3
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      • Stich496
        Banned
        • Apr 2011
        • 3269

        #4
        with dexacol they saw no need to ever drain it.. HA

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        • squirrel
          Benevolent Ruler of the Universe
          • Nov 2007
          • 19334

          #5
          I guess not, you'll be replacing the radiator when it's time to change the coolant!

          anyways, I plugged the new temp sensor into the wire, it still says the engine is hot in the message center and the temp gage still says cold (which it should). I guess there's a more serious computer problem going on.
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          • TC
            Banned
            • Nov 2007
            • 11805

            #6
            Check the wiring and connectors, you never know one of those pesky little rodents could have gone up in the engine compartment and had a little feast.......It's happened to my dad like 3 times now up in Show Low.......

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            • Mater
              Superhero BangShifter
              • Apr 2011
              • 2347

              #7
              services manual says the drain cock is on the driver side of the radiator. for a 2008 silverado 4x4 with any gas engine
              Originally posted by Remy-Z;n1167534
              Congratulations, man. You've just inherited the "Patron Saint of Automotive Lost Causes" from me. No question.

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              • squirrel
                Benevolent Ruler of the Universe
                • Nov 2007
                • 19334

                #8
                maybe the 2 wheel drives don't get that luxury...
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                • SuperBuickGuy
                  No Life Outside BangShift.com
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 32272

                  #9
                  make sure there aren't 2 sensors - one for the dash gauge, and one for the computer
                  Doing it all wrong since 1966

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                  • Mater
                    Superhero BangShifter
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 2347

                    #10
                    2wd said the same thing so idk maybe it is hidden under a peice of plastic
                    Originally posted by Remy-Z;n1167534
                    Congratulations, man. You've just inherited the "Patron Saint of Automotive Lost Causes" from me. No question.

                    75Grand AM 455:Pissed off GrandMA, 68 Volkswagen Type1 "beetle":it will run some year

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                    • SpiderGearsMan
                      No Life Outside BangShift.com
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 22359

                      #11
                      silverados have not had drain plugs since 2001
                      mess , big mess
                      change the hose clamps too , they crack

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                      • squirrel
                        Benevolent Ruler of the Universe
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 19334

                        #12
                        so what's making the temp gage not work, and the computer think the engine is hot?
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                        • TheSilverBuick
                          ALMOST Spidey !
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 22145

                          #13
                          Separate sender for the dash gauge. iirc, the TechII (and perhaps the actron stuff?) will read the actual temperatures reported by the sensors. If you replaced one, see if there is a different one?
                          Escaped on a technicality.

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                          • squirrel
                            Benevolent Ruler of the Universe
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 19334

                            #14
                            I only see one, and the symptoms indicate that both the computer and the gage are not happy. I'm pretty sure the modern stuff runs all the gages off the engine computer's data. It's not like the old days.
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                            • TC
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 11805

                              #15
                              When you plugged the new sensor into the wire, did you make sure to ground the body of the sensor to the block??

                              You can also try two things, one disconnect the battery for 15 minutes and do a reboot or two remove the ECM wiring harness connector from the ECM and put it back on........

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