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  • Re: 62 Falcon - $5k challenge, how will it rise from the ranger's ashes?

    What is your rear end out of I think I have a Crown Vic with disc brakes on the rear at the shop that my son is going to derby and he uses a 9" rear end and scraps the stockers let me know if they will work for you.
    Greg & Mendy
    Dayton, Ohio
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    • Re: 62 Falcon - $5k challenge, how will it rise from the ranger's ashes?

      Greg - the crown vic disc brake stuff should work, the axle shafts won't be the right length - but that's OK - if he's just going to scrap it I'd definitely be interested!

      I wonder if the rotors, calipers and mounting brackets would fit in two large flat rate boxes?
      Last edited by milner351; May 2nd, 2012, 08:56 AM.
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      • Re: 62 Falcon - $5k challenge, how will it rise from the ranger's ashes?

        Had a little time at the shop last night - pulled out the syncrowave and practiced on the 3" piece we cut out of the 8.8 tube
        (about 1/4" wall), then got to welding on the real thing. According to the miller calculator - I needed a larger tungsten, but I made it work, not the prettiest - but hopefully strong enough.

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        • Re: 62 Falcon - $5k challenge, how will it rise from the ranger's ashes?

          I've been watching this thread with interest. I didn't even know about this project until two days ago and I read most of it yesterday. Very fun read! I told Matt yesterday I'm extremely jealous. I'm just wondering how you're going to fit in the car. Are you going to sit in the back seat?

          I suggest you install a center seat location similar to the McLaren GT. I mean, this car will basically have the same performance right?!?!? ;)
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          • Re: 62 Falcon - $5k challenge, how will it rise from the ranger's ashes?

            Nice welding dude! Makes my bird poo welds look like... well.... bird poo!

            1973 F-250 460/C6 -Camper Special 1983 Mustang GT 545/C6 - 10.46 @ 130 - Drag Week 2012 - Street Race BB N/A runner-up

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            • Re: 62 Falcon - $5k challenge, how will it rise from the ranger's ashes?

              I had run a few short stitches where we removed 3" from the axle tube with the mig. I wasn't happy with the penetration (of course not - .023 wire in a mig is no match for ~1/4" wall thickness) so I ground the mig welds down. After welding the un touched portions of the joint, I went back over the previously mig welded portions - one thing I love about the TIG - you can see what's happening - in a few cases I was able to see the mig weld melt and fall into the previously un penetrated portion of the joint as I was moving the puddle and adding filler rod (1/8" steel).

              I sure give the guys a lot of credit that weld certed roll cages - that takes talent - especially since they can't rotate the joint like I could with the axle - welding overhead when you can't see with your head jammed between a roll bar and the roof of a car - that takes practice!

              Bishir - falcon's aren't THAT small - the plans are for Mark 8 buckets, console, and rear seat..... let's just hope I don't have to go rummaging through a walmart at ~10pm looking for parts to fix a rear axle leak!
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              • Re: 62 Falcon - $5k challenge, how will it rise from the ranger's ashes?

                Milner we've got three of these Crowns over here and I'll see how many good parts they have one was a cab and was suspose to have new brakes all the way around on it I'll start with that one. If you want to P.M. me your address we'll see about shipping them to you. If you know how long your axle needs to be I know a guy that can cut and re-spline a axle. He will cut a tube and cut and respline a axle for 150.00 so I don't know how much he would charge to do just an axle, unless you already have someone to do that. Let me know if I can help.
                Greg & Mendy
                Dayton, Ohio
                2007LH 2008LH 2010LH 2011LH 2012 1st 2 stops 2013LH
                Theres a thin line between finish line and red line.

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                • Re: 62 Falcon - $5k challenge, how will it rise from the ranger's ashes?

                  Do they look like this? Nah haven't seen them!
                  Fordman - are those crown vic or explorer? That makes me think what I have is all 9" versailles stuff.


                  Greg - let me know - you're not that far away - so driving down to pick stuff up isn't out of the question. I will have to measure and get you the length I need. I'm not sure what a junkyard would charge for an axle out of a ranger explorer - that would be a bolt in.
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                  • Re: 62 Falcon - $5k challenge, how will it rise from the ranger's ashes?

                    LKQ Axle shaft Rwd $29.99 + $7 core charge + tax (+ in NC there is an enviromental fee)

                    http://www.lkqselfserve.com/location...oo-347/prices/
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                    http://bangshift.com/forum/showthrea...river-Drag-LSR (whipping boy)
                    http://tv1.bangshift.com/forum/showt...-Flip-this-car! (for profit?)

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                    • Re: 62 Falcon - $5k challenge, how will it rise from the ranger's ashes?

                      Thanks Russell!

                      There's an LKQ close to me too.
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                      • Re: 62 Falcon - $5k challenge, how will it rise from the ranger's ashes?

                        get thicker tunsten, you need to be a bit hotter. The weld should be blue/silver (like your second picture) not shiney.

                        of course, I'm laughing at myself while I type this - last night I was welding cast aluminum so I could use my lawnmower and using about equal parts tungsten and aluminum rod
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                        • Re: 62 Falcon - $5k challenge, how will it rise from the ranger's ashes?

                          Depression over lack of shop time has once again led to spending money.

                          2" spring width, 3" diameter axle tube leaf spring perches

                          head bolt spacer/washers

                          stock replacement roller lifters

                          Summit didn't have leaf spring bushings - so I may end up ordering those from www.thesuspensionking.com
                          or maybe I won't order from the suspension king - I may be frugal - but I just can't wrap my head around $22 in shipping for $38 worth of bushings - especially since they're coming out of PA, not CA.


                          My wife has made garden expansion and play set assembly plans for the weekend - so falcon progress will be haulted for probably most of the next 48 hours.


                          SBG - keeping the tungsten out of the weld puddle sure isn't easy in some situations - welding cast aluminum mower parts.... yea - I'm sure that stuff wasn't real clean.... did you remember to ball up the tungsten with some copper?
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                          • Re: 62 Falcon - $5k challenge, how will it rise from the ranger's ashes?

                            no balling, simply use A/C. Even if I balled the tip, it wouldn't solve the issue - that it was carrying far more current than the little 1/16" tungsten wire could handle. Fortunately I could do tack, cool, tack, cool and it worked pretty well all things considered. The biggest issue with cast aluminum is the porosity, it traps crap and oxygen - both of which are not good for pretty welds. Ah well, though, it worked and my lawn won't have to be baled before the new parts get here (which was the point of welding a $16.44 part)
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                            • Re: 62 Falcon - $5k challenge, how will it rise from the ranger's ashes?

                              Nice work! I have not welded much cast AL at all - I'm a bit apprehensive to start on injector bungs and the like...
                              There's always something new to learn.

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                              • Re: 62 Falcon - $5k challenge, how will it rise from the ranger's ashes?

                                don't let it scare you, it's not terribly hard. About the only real differences between it and steel welding (other then welder settings) is you: remove the oxidation from where you're going to weld, push the torch, and feed the rod into torch as you're pushing along. Imagine the rod and the torch are dancing a basic back/forward waltz.... weird analogy, I know, but it's what I was told and it works for me.
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                                • Re: 62 Falcon - $5k challenge, how will it rise from the ranger's ashes?

                                  Got the front spring pockets mostly welded in last night. I think I drilled the bolt holes too large in the spring pockets, I think they are now the OD of the leaf spring front bushing sleeve, not the ID - so I may have to find some bushings or weld on washers or something.... I don't have new from bushings yet and the old ones are already scrapped.

                                  The HF heat gun wouldn't work at all last night - so apparently they have about a 5 hour life span..... I think that's the second one that died quickly on me - the first one didn't even get all the stickers off one side of the mach1. oh well.

                                  Baby steps.

                                  The 2" wide 3" diameter tube spring perches came in - but I'm still not completely sure how to get them set up right on the axle yet - so I'm waiting until I can mock up the springs in the new location in the car.
                                  There's always something new to learn.

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                                  • Re: 62 Falcon - $5k challenge, how will it rise from the ranger's ashes?

                                    bolt the axle in place without welding the pads, measure, measure, measure, put on the ground (or at least support the entire weight of the car on the axle - meaning put the jackstands under points that correspond with the tires), check the angles, tack, pull apart, weld up solid.

                                    HF - yep, still hit n miss on quality.

                                    still, it is progress - keep it up
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                                    • Re: 62 Falcon - $5k challenge, how will it rise from the ranger's ashes?

                                      You sure make up for lost weekends great job keep up the good work.
                                      Greg & Mendy
                                      Dayton, Ohio
                                      2007LH 2008LH 2010LH 2011LH 2012 1st 2 stops 2013LH
                                      Theres a thin line between finish line and red line.

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                                      • Re: 62 Falcon - $5k challenge, how will it rise from the ranger's ashes?

                                        Got some more welding done last night. Front leaf spring mounts are all welded in - ugly, but welded. Passenger floor got some more attention, and drivers floor is closer to welding in the new piece.

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                                        After - 1/8" plate front spring mount welded in - ugly - but welded.
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                                        • Re: 62 Falcon - $5k challenge, how will it rise from the ranger's ashes?

                                          looks quite serviceable... keep up the good work
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