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JOES66FURY
January 7th, 2008, 11:16 AM
Anyone have any tips or tricks or advice when it comes to installing widows and getting them to roll up and down properly....The drivers side plastic plug that holds the slide on the window broke, so I replaced it but had to swap some things from the old door to the new door to get everything to work but getting this thing to roll up and down evenly is kicking my arse...there are what appears to be 2 forward and aft adjustments one for the rear and one for the front where the window rided in the vent windo channel....I'll see if I can get some pics up...maybe that will help .....
squirrel
January 7th, 2008, 11:49 AM
Do you have the factory shop manual for the car? That is a help...if you don't, I'll see if I can scan some of it.
Be sure to lube all the metal-metal contact points in the regulator.
JOES66FURY
January 7th, 2008, 12:38 PM
No...I dont have a shop manual....I get outbid all the time on ebay and they are kinda spendy if you find them anytwhere else...I do see them on disk on ebay from time to time for under 50 bucks...I'll just pick one up if you think it will help....not very convenient tho...
Scott Liggett
January 8th, 2008, 12:51 AM
I pay fifty bucks to have a glass shop do that stuff. It's worth every penny to keep the skin on my forearms.
The little plastic wheels have broken off the regulator on my 65 Impala. I just got replacements, but I am not going to touch it.
JOES66FURY
January 8th, 2008, 06:55 AM
Do you think a glass shop will have the low tech know how to make it right? There is PLENTY of room to work...but its a holy PITA....and I dont want to break the damn glass...its hard enough finding sheet metal for this damn thing....
Scott Liggett
January 8th, 2008, 10:35 AM
I've got two I use here in LA. When I go next week, I also have to take a quarter window from a 60 something Ford Falcon and have them make a new glass for it. It's flat and totally surrounded by trim. They want $60 bucks each cash. The guy I go to doesn't take plastic, though the part of town he's in, I'm not surprised. He did my driver's door window last and it works like new.
My 73 Impala had power windows and it would routinely run the windows out of the channels and drop down into the door and quarter panel. All four of them did at least twice. I got pretty good at putting them back in and it was a major PITA and I always had scraped up arms and wrists.
I think you can do it. On my 65 they put the window on the regulator before putting it into the door. Then bolt it all in. I would leave the bolts somewhat loose so you will have some wiggle room getting it all in.
squirrel
January 8th, 2008, 10:41 AM
I would NEVER take an old car to a glass shop to have the window mechanisms repaired.....
Joe, I'll try to scan the manual pages that might help, send me a PM to remind me?
Scott Liggett
January 8th, 2008, 10:42 AM
Even auto glass shops?
squirrel
January 8th, 2008, 10:54 AM
Maybe in a big city they have competent shops, but around here they are clueless about old cars...they use urethane to glue in vent windows instead of using setting tape, etc.
Scott Liggett
January 8th, 2008, 10:58 AM
There are dozens of glass shops in LA and I only trust two. What does that tell ya?
squirrel
January 8th, 2008, 11:08 AM
We have three glass shops in town, I think. I trust none of them with old stuff.
TAman1969
January 8th, 2008, 11:33 AM
there was a good mention of glass adjustments on one of the car shows-Dream Car garage Peter Klutt(sp?) they give some damn good resto info in the first 5 minutes of their show-you'll have to look thru the reruns to find it -think it was the one they were restoring a 70-71 Buick GS. IMO thats the best Car show going allways neet informative stuff, little funny no BS deadlines or drama added , hope this helps and you can find it!
JOES66FURY
January 8th, 2008, 01:16 PM
Maybe in a big city they have competent shops, but around here they are clueless about old cars...they use urethane to glue in vent windows instead of using setting tape, etc.
I think part of the problem is part of the slider/trim that attaches to the window and rided in the vent window track...where might I find this "setting tape"? I would really appreciate the images of that manual..when you get time of course. thanks Jim...
squirrel
January 8th, 2008, 08:16 PM
The setting tape is used on cars a bit older than yours. The slide you need was available at the dealer last time I worked on one of those 25-30 years ago :)
The book I have for full size cars is from 68, midsize from 66, so won't be exact for your car....hopefully close though...I think.
CTX-SLPR
January 8th, 2008, 08:30 PM
Is that the stuff you stuff into the channel to hold windows inplace? Mines come loose on my drivers door and I'm debating on a custom glass shop to redo it and get the goofey flip flop rear window mechanisms lined up.
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