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Freiburger
November 7th, 2007, 08:53 AM
Can we put a Megasquirt on our minibike with a Chinese-knockoff B&S motor? Think nitrous enrichment.
Turk needs some minibike humility, and we're gonna deliver it.
KeithTurk
November 7th, 2007, 09:00 AM
Dude... you need to think Burbank street racing for that Mini bike... mine's been so humbled it won't even come out of the corner...
Now if you want to race Honda's... I'll even bring out Tonya's Passport... simply cause it WILL run and ride... LOL
Keith ( always get um where ya know you can!!! )
dieselgeek
November 7th, 2007, 09:33 AM
Hell yes we can do that. I was thinking of offering that up last night...
Have chad find a wrecked EFI motorcycle, grab a tiny fuel pump, 1 or 2 injectors, fab up an intake. If just running fuel control, we can trigger off the ignition (no need for a trigger wheel). If you want to go nuts and retard timing when you feed it the 75-shot, then ahve him put a trigger wheel and CKP sensor on it and we'll do timing as well.
sounds like fun to me. Sadly, a ton of the other megasquirt geeks have already done this on lawnmowers, weedeaters, and - get this - jet skis. So it's not totalyl original, but the good news is someone probably already has tuned maps we can download and fire it up! oh yeah, you'll need a hobby battery (6v is fine) to run the megasquirt until the engine is running and the generator comes online.
;)
Freiburger
November 7th, 2007, 09:44 AM
Ooo, this is going to be good!
Sending in the medical insurance check today!
Tommygun
November 7th, 2007, 09:57 AM
didnt they develop a microsquirt?? I forsee the need of knee pads and a rubber helmet
Freiburger
November 7th, 2007, 10:13 AM
Good thing Chad carries both everywhere he goes.
(Man, I'm on today)
slightlywickedchick
November 7th, 2007, 10:26 AM
It sounds like I to take out a life insurance policy on Chad and make sure his medical is up to date as well!
BTW...good one Dave...I knew I liked you :)
shaun callaway
November 7th, 2007, 10:38 AM
this would be awesome. if it was me i would make sure you widen the frame a little bit and try and put a wider tire in the back. when i had mine we use a honda pressure washer motor, widened it and put the big fat tires on it because once you hit 60-70 mph you dont want the high speed wobbles. that can be a mess. with nitrous that thing will be a monster lol
dieselgeek
November 7th, 2007, 10:42 AM
this would be awesome. if it was me i would make sure you widen the frame a little bit and try and put a wider tire in the back. when i had mine we use a honda pressure washer motor, widened it and put the big fat tires on it because once you hit 60-70 mph you dont want the high speed wobbles. that can be a mess. with nitrous that thing will be a monster lol
shaun makes a great point, if you want to really haul ass on one, you could go for the bigblock upgrade. 10.0hp motor instead of the weak 3.5 or 5.0hp motor. Hell, turbo it - why not?!?
a microsquirt would be a good idea but they won't support a nitrous output. Gonna have to go regular megasquirt on this one.
KeithTurk
November 7th, 2007, 11:27 AM
My recommendation here is to NEVER walk away from your screen... even for a minute... next thing you know...
shaun callaway
November 7th, 2007, 11:42 AM
the good thing is if you atch yard sales you can pick up edgers that have motors of all sizes for super cheap. the last go kart i built i had picked up a 5hp edger for 20 bucks. when i built the mini bike i had bought the pressure washer from a yard sale for 35 bucks. all it needed was a tune up (some people are just stupid) lol. i saw the bike in chads garage and it would be good for a starter but if it was me i would jump right in and drop the bigger motor in.
VWMMP
November 7th, 2007, 11:59 AM
Or add one of these
http://www.mjmturbos.com/images/SMALLEST.jpg
Narider
November 7th, 2007, 12:16 PM
Could this be the beginning of the Pit Bike Challenge?
Can anyone enter?
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o244/narider/Pit%20bike%20stuff/100_3231.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o244/narider/Pit%20bike%20stuff/100_3232.jpg
And people used to snicker at my basket....
Todd
VWMMP
November 7th, 2007, 12:22 PM
THE PIT BIKE BS Challange. BS = Briggs and Stratton - Limited to 5HP motors - one power adder allowed. 1/8 Mile drag.
LOL
KeithTurk
November 7th, 2007, 12:23 PM
Ain't no "used" to snicker to it Narider ( Todd )
Oh man... this just isn't good...
LIMITS ... someone has to put limits on this... or it's going to get outta hand....
How bout it's gotta have two wheels and a motor? Single cylinder... Or twins under say... 50cc's.. ( see I just got my 650 thumper in there didn't I... )...
screw it... just say Mini bike and if you don't bring one we laugh and send you home...
dieselgeek
November 7th, 2007, 12:44 PM
joel, WHERE CAN I GET ONE OF THOSE TINY TURBOS!!!!
I was just starting the EFI project on my Scag lawnmower. two cylinder Kohler engine, needs a few pounds of boost, THAT LOOKS PERFECT
VWMMP
November 7th, 2007, 01:31 PM
I snatched the picture from www.mjmturbos.com
For use in ultralight planes.
Try these guys for a TD02 http://192.48.234.65/ I think this is a TD02 here.
http://www.btinternet.com/~goosegog/turbodax_files/P8180049.jpg
VWMMP
November 7th, 2007, 01:38 PM
LIMITS ... someone has to put limits on this... or it's going to get outta hand....
How bout it's gotta have two wheels and a motor? Single cylinder... Or twins under say... 50cc's.. ( see I just got my 650 thumper in there didn't I... )...
screw it... just say Mini bike and if you don't bring one we laugh and send you home...
How about 2 wheels - Pick a max size tire - Must have one power adder - Single Cyliner Briggs motor (keeps out the aprilla and bike motors) - Put a size limit on the frame.
KeithTurk
November 7th, 2007, 04:24 PM
nahhh then I'd have to build tire gauges...
Just bring a mini bike or we laugh you off...
bowtiemonster
November 7th, 2007, 11:49 PM
Those are cool. Wondering how to put it on my gas powered blender. Humm ::)?
JeffMcKC
November 8th, 2007, 02:41 PM
Make it 1 gear 100 CC or less,N/A Class I will rule!!! I still have some of my old Komet open 100cc Kart motors laying around, I dont think I can Talk Doc into driving so it will be the Fat Guy on a Little Bike.
BOWTIE6872
July 6th, 2009, 10:42 AM
did this ever run..
and if so.
where is the smokey burnout
Brian Lohnes
July 6th, 2009, 10:43 AM
He actually put nitro through the thing until it blew apart.
Seriously.
Brian
SpiderGearsMan
July 6th, 2009, 10:44 AM
this thread is worthless without photos
SpiderGearsMan
July 6th, 2009, 10:48 AM
nitro or cox fuel
haha cox haha
CM325
July 6th, 2009, 10:49 AM
this thread is worthless without photos
X2 ;)
Brian Lohnes
July 6th, 2009, 10:53 AM
nitro or cox fuel
haha cox haha
The real stuff. I had my snoot in the mason jar.
Brian
mike343sharpstick
July 6th, 2009, 11:31 AM
I have seen real-life pit bike races and the riders were actual expert/pro road racers that may or may not have ingested a fair amount post race-day beer.
I have also seen scooters and other assorted motorized two-wheeled whatevers do many things the engineers would never have imagined (think Honda Spree, 55 gal drum and a loading ramp ;)).
Anyhoo, ya' can't go wrong with a pit bike race, best mostest fun ever!
milner351
July 6th, 2009, 11:43 AM
Not to divert - but while we're talking "small engines"
Scott - would you care to step into the 2 stroke outboard realm with your minisquirt magnificense?
I'm thinking about my "tower of power" straight six outboard with it's three carbs, and starting to wonder, how hard would be be to make this thing EFI?
dieselgeek
July 6th, 2009, 11:52 AM
Not to divert - but while we're talking "small engines"
Scott - would you care to step into the 2 stroke outboard realm with your minisquirt magnificense?
I'm thinking about my "tower of power" straight six outboard with it's three carbs, and starting to wonder, how hard would be be to make this thing EFI?
We've done a few Jet Skis
The issue with a 2-stroke is that it's manifold pressure signal is NOT proportionate with load on the engine. In fact, when you hit the right rpm & load, you get POSITIVE map due to pressure wave tuning.
The good news is, a friend of mine in St Louis figured out that you can use a good old Ford MAF (0-5 volts) to meter the air and end up with a perfectly tuned 2-stroke. Figure out how to mount a MAF through a commin intake, and use a Megasquirt-1 and I can help you out. I'd still try to do port injectors.
-scott
fahrenschnell
July 6th, 2009, 02:22 PM
Count me in for any mini-bike race..... ;)
Seth
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