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Brian Lohnes
January 2nd, 2009, 04:27 AM
Looks like it's happening in August?
Who's planning on being there? I know I am.
Brian
DanStokes
January 2nd, 2009, 09:05 AM
How's their schedule vs. Speed Week? I'd like to attend but already have a room for B'ville.
Dan
terry russell
January 2nd, 2009, 02:28 PM
I plain to go north or west can't do both.
terry
Darren N.
January 2nd, 2009, 03:14 PM
Hey guys, anyone want to clue me in? Is there an LSR event going down in Maine?
I'm just north of the border. B'ville, El Mirage, and even Maxton are a ways out, but Maine....I could do Maine!
Thanks
ls7gto
January 2nd, 2009, 03:33 PM
dates times and who buying the beer?
greenjunk
January 2nd, 2009, 03:48 PM
aug 1
Darren N.
January 2nd, 2009, 04:16 PM
I found this local news article about the event:
http://www.bangordailynews.com/detail/49551.html
Wow, I hope as the details come together I'll be able to make it. As for beer, if I make it there will be a couple cases of Canada's finest in my trunk ;D
I'm a total LSR newb, time to order an ECTA rulebook :)
Caveman
January 2nd, 2009, 04:58 PM
Can't wait. I'll bring some of Sam Adams' finest.
I'll even volunteer the fitty-6 as a push truck (albeit a slow one)... send me your bumper height specs!
Tony
Freiburger
January 2nd, 2009, 05:43 PM
Might be a time conflict, but I'll be there if I can afford it.
Teddyzee
January 2nd, 2009, 07:08 PM
Wow, I'd love to check it out.
fast Ed
January 2nd, 2009, 07:30 PM
Hmm ... no closer for me than Maxton. Might be more seasonable weather in mid-summer though.
cheers
Ed N.
greenjunk
January 2nd, 2009, 08:42 PM
Furb may be able to pick you up at an airport along the way... I know turk has to drive right by my hous on his way.
decoste786
January 9th, 2009, 08:21 AM
How about rules and classes. If I drive down in the Chevelle, can I run it?
Caveman
January 9th, 2009, 11:07 AM
ECTA rules, right?
If you haven't seen the blog check this:
http://www.freiburgersjunkyard.com/blog/Land-Speed-Racing-Comes-to-Maine-for-2009.html
Brian/Keith, how close are ECTA rules to B'ville rules on chassis stuff?
VTJUNK
January 9th, 2009, 11:15 AM
I would like to be there. I usually don't have anything going on in August.
Benchracing this in my head though. Which car I already own is better for this type of event? Can I pull it off?
Brian, I know you're going to tell me to bring the black truck. Can you run anything without a cage though? I have some reading to do I guess.
Brian Lohnes
January 10th, 2009, 05:25 AM
You can run stuff without a cage, but if memory serves me correct, you would be immediately limited to 135 mph or so.
I think this event is being run under ECTA rules, so you can go to www.ecta-lsr and poke around their site to learn stuff. You can also just pony up for a rule book and have it all at your fingertips.
Tech inspection is going to be FAR tighter than you are used to at 'da Valley. ;)
Caveman....I think the rules line up very nicely as most of the competitors I met at Maxton, run the same iron at Bonneville. That's just me connecting the dots, you'll need to hear from Turk or Dan Warner for "real" answers.
Brian
DanStokes
January 10th, 2009, 08:53 AM
If I'm wrong on any of this I hope Keith will step in, but it goes something like this -
ECTA was designed as a venue to get ready for Bonneville. Therefore, our rules are pretty close to SCTA and are getting even closer. There are a few different classes that we allow as a concession to our local racers - for example, we have street classes that I don't think the SCTA runs.
As far as safety stuff - anything over 135 and you have to have at least a 6-point cage. ANY convert needs at least a six point depending on the speed it'll run (I have a 'Stang convert so I know that one well). You'll need a full-face Snell 2000 or better helmet, whether in a car or on a bike. Be sure your helmet has a label so the inspector can check it - and NO, DOT is not adequate. Full face is required in a car due to fire concerns. Go over 150 and other requirements kick in, including fire suppression, more complex cages, etc. You'll need a rule book - go to <ECTA-LSR.com> and you'll find the info for ordering the book.
Go fast - be safe - have fun
Dan
miketblsr
January 10th, 2009, 10:08 AM
Dan, 4 point for 150mph, 6 point 175,full cage over 175mph. A covert. automatically bumps you up 1 level of pertection for example, for 135 you need a 4 point and for 150 you need a 6 point. For any speed over 135mph a fire suit is needed. Over 150mph you need fire suppression. And so on and so on and so on.lol
Bob Wanner
January 10th, 2009, 12:24 PM
Hey Guys and Girls, I finally registered on this forum. I'm Bob Wanner, partners with Bobby Jepson in the Loring Timing Association. Not much info we can add to what's been discussed here, but a BIG Thank You to Dave and all the people on this great new site for spreading the word about LSR in Maine.
ECTA rules, at least one and a half miles acceleration, 90% sure it's August 1 and 2, with July 31 for tech and setup.
We are finalizing the timing procedures, trying to arrange local discount accommodations, lots of other lesser but as important issues, and still working on a website dedicated to LTA only.
If you wish to view the facility, MapQuest has the best and most recent aerials.
Questions ?
Bob Wanner Co-Conspirator L.T.A. Limestone, Maine
DanStokes
January 10th, 2009, 01:35 PM
Another point that's easily overlooked -
At 135 or below, you'll need metal valve stem caps. Above 135 (or is it 150? - my cars are both done so I don't worry about it) you'll need metal valve stems and caps. Easy to do at home - a real pain if you get to the track and you don't have it.
Dan
AdioSS
January 10th, 2009, 05:59 PM
I think I read somewhere that steel wheels are required also, but maybe that was just SCTA?
DanStokes
January 11th, 2009, 01:01 PM
Alloy wheels are allowed at some speed points - my factory wheels on the 'Stang w/metal stems are OK to 150 - I know that for sure. I've seen guys running WAY faster than that w/alloy wheels, but I don't know the details off the top of my head. If you run steel wheels over 150 mph, the spider must be welded to the rim all around the edge of the spider. I'm running S10 wheels with the required welding - they balanced up just fine. Also, above 150 you'll need 1" lug nuts - I got mine from Speedway. The lug must extend at least 5/8" into the lug - I suggest you get the long studs from Speedway and make sure that stud is thru the nut. Easier for the tech folks to check just by looking. Again, I stress that you need a rule book.
Dan
I think I read somewhere that steel wheels are required also, but maybe that was just SCTA?
greenjunk
January 11th, 2009, 03:48 PM
Given this is a new event and all records will be opened, my only question is....
WHAT COLOR IS YOUR HAT? ;D
Caveman
January 11th, 2009, 05:10 PM
Bob Wanner, Bobby Jepson, if anyone hasn't already thanked you, then I think I can speak for the whole Junkyard by saying THANKS!!
Now, down to detail stuff:
Approx. how long is the run up before the 1.5 mile measured, and how long is the approx. shut down area, and what is the pavement & condition?
I've looked at the Google satellite info, and it looks like a healthy airfield... care to share more from what you've seen?
miketblsr
January 11th, 2009, 05:44 PM
The run up to the measured 1.5 miles is about 3" long. lol The shut down would be 1 mile. As far as the pavment compared to Maxton it should be like cruising down the highway.
Mike
shadetree
January 11th, 2009, 06:17 PM
Where will be the host motel located and will there be any special rates for racers? Price of entry fee? Got to know how many alum cans to cash in for the 1500 mi one way trip!(lol)
Brian Lohnes
January 11th, 2009, 07:04 PM
Approx. how long is the run up before the 1.5 mile measured, and how long is the approx. shut down area, and what is the pavement & condition?
Tony...like Maxton, think a 1.5 mile bye run on the drag strip. The clocks start when your tirem moves off the starting line and stop when you trip the lights at 1.5 miles. Hammer down baby!
Bob, thanks for joining up and we'd love to help spread the word. Whenever you have anything to announce no matter how large or small please drop me a note at nedannouncer@hotmail.com
I'm down in Boston and will be there for the first event. Lots of buzz down here!
Brian
greenjunk
January 11th, 2009, 07:12 PM
Where will be the host motel located and will there be any special rates for racers? Price of entry fee? Got to know how many alum cans to cash in for the 1500 mi one way trip!(lol)
Amazing who comes out of the woodwork for a pretty hat.... ;D
KeithTurk
January 13th, 2009, 01:53 AM
ya think?
LOL
K
greenjunk
January 13th, 2009, 07:49 AM
does anyone get how easy it is to make a car go 200mph in 1.5 miles of runway, or am i the only one that finds it so funny, that i'm chomping at the bit to go up there and smash some records.
fahrenschnell
January 13th, 2009, 11:02 AM
Dave....How hard will it be to get 250? Maybe the AA is the way to go for 1.5 miles.
Seth
miketblsr
January 13th, 2009, 01:46 PM
I think 250 is a huge number even at 1.5 miles your going to need a motor that pulls light a freight train all through the power band. I know this guy that has just the motor to do it too ::)
fahrenschnell
January 13th, 2009, 04:26 PM
Hmmmm ;)
Seth
greenjunk
January 13th, 2009, 07:29 PM
yeah what is that short nappy headed m-fer doing anyways.... and where the hell is that white car
VTJUNK
January 15th, 2009, 08:46 AM
I just talked to a couple of guys that run SCCA hillclimbs and one that runs Pikes Peak. They are interested in going to Loring.
Mapquest says 9 hrs from here. More than I thought. :o
Brian Lohnes
January 24th, 2009, 06:10 AM
It's 8 hours from Boston according to some Mainers I talked to basically because there ain't any 8 lane highways headed to Limestone.
Brian
White Monster
January 24th, 2009, 06:26 AM
I just checked Mapquest and the estimated travel time for me is 27 hours 36 minutes for the estimated 1,673.47 miles one way !!!
:P
greenjunk
January 26th, 2009, 01:33 PM
So will someone answer the damn question....
WHAT COLOR IS YOUR HAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Caveman
January 27th, 2009, 07:06 PM
Got another note from Bob Wanner-- http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/rockon.gif
Hey Tony !
Nothing new real recently. As to your question about sweeping, they maintained the place after the USAF left in 93 for infrequent plane landings and as a emerg landing for the shuttle. They still have the equipt and now maintain it for us. We're getting a trickle of volunteers, will correlate all according to previous LSR skills, Timing, Tech, etc. We want to run this with double the volleys so they only spend half the time helping and half hanging where they want. We are working on accommodations discounts in the better places nearest the place. Also putting up a website to put all the info on one place . And a neat logo, real Maine specific.
Got a lot of super secret plotting towards some major attendance, can't elaborate yet.
This will be The Event of LSR in 2009, regardless of what happens any elsewhere.
"Woodstock on Wheels" , BobbyHotRods calls it, almost exactly 40 years after The original Woodstock '69.
BOB W, LTA Propaganda Minister
greenjunk
January 27th, 2009, 07:21 PM
still didn't answer the question
fahrenschnell
January 27th, 2009, 07:34 PM
Somebody better pick a color for the hats before Dave lifts a headgasket ;D
Seth
White Monster
January 28th, 2009, 07:22 AM
LOL !!!
;D
greenjunk
January 28th, 2009, 10:07 AM
or worse yet, bow an o-ring ;D
DanStokes
January 28th, 2009, 01:48 PM
I heard pink, Dave. That's cute, don'tcha think? (Dave's blood is now boiling)
Dan
Caveman
January 28th, 2009, 07:04 PM
Bob Wanner sent me a reply... nutshell, nothin yet. I say send him a suggestion! I guess the volunteer that's doing it hasn't read this thread yet...
In a message dated 1/27/2009 11:00:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, captaincaveman3@yahoo.com writes:
Oh, and btw, these guys are going NUTS until they find out what color the Loring 200 mph hat is going to be... Check out the Loring thread under Land Speed racing...
http://www.freiburgersjunkyard.com/forum/index.php?topic=8582.msg184437#new
Tony
Yeah, I, uh, saw that. Really high on my list of Priorities for LTA/09.
Currently we are deciding between a condom stretched over the recipient, a bra ( more speed more cup size), one horn from a Brahma Bull straight up w/bungee cord chin strap, or I'll donate my collection of '60s used avocado colored upholstered toilet seats, or as I call 'em all season rag tops .
We will have something both original and appropriate, just haven't had the time yet. We also have a basic logo we are sure everyone will like. All being done/ farmed out to volunteers, we do not push volunteers.
BOB W
Bob Wanner
January 30th, 2009, 05:33 PM
On getting there. Figure 400 miles from Boston area. Mostly all highway speeds, especially after Bangor. After the exit off I-95, (302) , you go north on US 1 , being especially mindful of small town small speed limits . Last time down we Left Caribou at 4 am to avoid local traffic, made NH border out of Maine in 6 hours. That's towing, too. For those with time or on summer vacation, consider either going up the coast on US 1 or through the beautiful mountains inland.
We also today made arrangements with the Caribou Conference Center for a LTA racers discount for rooms. Details to follow.
fahrenschnell
January 30th, 2009, 06:14 PM
I am really looking forward to this.....Is there an airport nearby to fly in?
Seth
Caveman
January 30th, 2009, 07:25 PM
I am really looking forward to this.....Is there an airport nearby to fly in?
Seth
http://www.cariboumaine.org/airport.html
And NO, the runway is NOT TUNDRA. ;D
Seriously, Note that the runway is 4000' of asphalt, and is limited to 12,500 lb aircraft... so leave your Boeing 707 at home.
;D ;D ;D
cajunkid5690
January 31st, 2009, 06:27 PM
I was thinking of hitching a ride on a C130 and have them do a touch and go and drop my car off for me !!!
That would be a way to arrive at an old air base with a race car in style.
Charles
Bob Wanner
February 2nd, 2009, 03:57 PM
Flying in.....
If it's your plane, you can land at Loring on our Runway. You must call the Loring Development Authority in advance for permission ( a formality). You can only "land well before racing, and leave well after". That's the info provided to me a few days ago by the CEO up there of the LDA. There obviously are no "services" there . ie; fuel, repairs, tower, lights, so be prepared . You can buy Race fuel if it fits from VP fuels, who will be our on site official Fuel provider.
If you plan on a commercial to the nearest airport, Caribou, it's a long and expensive deal, I've been told. Consider bigger Presque Isle, about 10 miles farther, or Bangor, 200(?) miles South.
Ray Burby, CAP guy, took that Great Panaramio low angle pic I posted, fliesout of Caribou. Hope he finds/sends more.
Website, Accommodations info, pre registration info, coming pretty soon. Hang in there !!!!
Bob W... We will do this right the First Time, rong not an option.
1988montecarloss
February 16th, 2009, 09:29 PM
somebody needs to show me when and where this is gonna be. i live about 10 miles from bangor, me and would love to go.
Caveman
February 19th, 2009, 09:28 AM
somebody needs to show me when and where this is gonna be. i live about 10 miles from bangor, me and would love to go.
Aug 1 & 2, tech is July 31st... It's on some frozen tundra runway almost in Canada, I think. ;D
1988montecarloss
February 19th, 2009, 11:28 AM
somebody needs to show me when and where this is gonna be. i live about 10 miles from bangor, me and would love to go.
Aug 1 & 2, tech is July 31st... It's on some frozen tundra runway almost in Canada, I think. ;D
do you know how much it costs to go watch?
Marcia
February 22nd, 2009, 05:27 PM
Watch!!??
volunteer!!
miketblsr
February 22nd, 2009, 07:05 PM
somebody needs to show me when and where this is gonna be. i live about 10 miles from bangor, me and would love to go.
Aug 1 & 2, tech is July 31st... It's on some frozen tundra runway almost in Canada, I think. ;D
do you know how much it costs to go watch?
Unless it has chnaged over the winter it a whopping walet breaking loan taking 5.00 for the weekend. lol
1988montecarloss
March 3rd, 2009, 07:29 PM
Watch!!??
volunteer!!
i'd like to but i dont feel like spending money to get it to be able to run. you do need to buy safety stuff right? i dont think my 3.73's would do to well anyway :P
Caveman
March 3rd, 2009, 08:01 PM
Watch!!??
volunteer!!
i'd like to but i dont feel like spending money to get it to be able to run. you do need to buy safety stuff right? i dont think my 3.73's would do to well anyway :P
Volunteer it as a pit cruiser/tow vehicle! STYLE POINTS!
Brian Lohnes
March 6th, 2009, 05:54 AM
Volunteer as in help work the race as an official. Like they do at Maxton. Help on the starting line, finish line, organizing things etc.
Brian
greenjunk
March 6th, 2009, 03:48 PM
Someone has to hand me my hat.... ;D
Marcia
March 7th, 2009, 08:14 PM
Remember, if you are the only car to race in your class that weekend, you will have the track record. 8)
DanStokes
March 7th, 2009, 08:28 PM
Hi Marcia!
Hope all is going well up there. Sorry I can't come this year as I've made arrangements to go to Bonneville, but I'll for sure be there next year. If there's anything I can share from my ECTA experience feel free to PM me. Of course, Keith & Tonya and Joe and Donna have much more to offer in that department......
Dan
Remember, if you are the only car to race in your class that weekend, you will have the track record. 8)
Marcia
March 8th, 2009, 07:51 AM
Dan,
I'll be at Maxton in April with my volunteer hat on, but it won't be as big as your hat.
I am also planning on flying out to Bonneville. I will bring a big hat and lots of sunscreen.
Your first time at Bonneville?
Don't plan on sleeping much. :D Lots to see and do.
Marcia
1988montecarloss
March 9th, 2009, 04:04 PM
Watch!!??
volunteer!!
i'd like to but i dont feel like spending money to get it to be able to run. you do need to buy safety stuff right? i dont think my 3.73's would do to well anyway :P
Volunteer it as a pit cruiser/tow vehicle! STYLE POINTS!
i could use my car as a tow vehicle :P i dont know whos idea this was but it was on the car when i bought it(yes thats my monte)
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb39/yalikit/untitled.jpg
Caveman
March 9th, 2009, 08:58 PM
Watch!!??
volunteer!!
i'd like to but i dont feel like spending money to get it to be able to run. you do need to buy safety stuff right? i dont think my 3.73's would do to well anyway :P
Volunteer it as a pit cruiser/tow vehicle! STYLE POINTS!
i could use my car as a tow vehicle :P i dont know whos idea this was but it was on the car when i bought it(yes thats my monte)
http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb39/yalikit/untitled.jpg
SWEET SIPHERONOMOUS, thats the shizzle.
BOWTIE6872
March 14th, 2009, 04:25 PM
Looks like it's happening in August?
Who's planning on being there? I know I am.
Brian
o.k. call me dumb..
whats happen'n in maine
Brian Lohnes
March 14th, 2009, 04:29 PM
http://www.bangshift.com/index.php?id=985&searched=maine&highlight=AS_ajax_highlight+AS_ajax_highlight1
1988montecarloss
March 14th, 2009, 10:54 PM
if i go i'll get TONS of pics ;)
1988montecarloss
March 14th, 2009, 10:55 PM
does anybody know what the fastest cars there will be running?
BOWTIE6872
March 15th, 2009, 05:21 AM
http://www.bangshift.com/index.php?id=985&searched=maine&highlight=AS_ajax_highlight+AS_ajax_highlight1
tanks..
Marcia
March 15th, 2009, 07:02 AM
[quote=1988montecarloss ]
does anybody know what the fastest cars there will be running?
[/quote
The fastest cars at Maxton run about 220?
It is quite a sight.
White Monster
March 15th, 2009, 07:22 AM
Just a question, not a complaint.
How does holding a LSR event at an airport affect ?threatened? bird species ?
Do these birds use the runway to land or do they nest in the grass around the airstrip ?
???
Marcia
March 15th, 2009, 01:37 PM
The birds nest beside the track. Apparently the bombers that used the base didn't bother the birds.
White Monster
March 15th, 2009, 03:24 PM
The birds nest beside the track. Apparently the bombers that used the base didn't bother the birds.
What ??
A Convair B-36 Peacemaker strategic bomber with four GE J47 turbojets producing 5,200 lbf each didn't bother the birds,
but cars with a single V-8 will ??
Mmmmmmmm ......
Marcia
March 15th, 2009, 03:41 PM
my thoughts exactly!!
greenjunk
March 15th, 2009, 05:41 PM
tree hugging liberals ;D
DanStokes
March 16th, 2009, 11:28 AM
I ARE a tree-hugging liberal - but we're not all insane! This, clearly, makes no sense. Protecting the planet = good. Doing stupid stuff = dumb.
Dan
Caveman
March 16th, 2009, 07:50 PM
The problem isn't necessarily a car hurting the birds, its the birds hurting the cars...
Loud noises could scare them into the air, and into your... uh, flight path.
Case in point A: Airliner in Hudson river.
TheSilverBuick
March 16th, 2009, 08:23 PM
My scientific testing has shown that Sparrows can get taken out at 15mph, Pigeons at 35mph, Owls at 65mph and Crows/Raven's will get hit every time at 84mph but not 83mph (hit five in 150 mile stretch with the Centurion, not as a flock either).
Airliner can probably take all birds out at that speed :P
rightpedal
March 17th, 2009, 04:06 AM
My scientific testing has shown that Sparrows can get taken out at 15mph, Pigeons at 35mph, Owls at 65mph and Crows/Raven's will get hit every time at 84mph but not 83mph
Airliner can probably take all birds out at that speed :P
I agree with Randal's findings. The birds never really stood a chance with some thing more akin to a building than a car coming at you at 15 mph. I have night mares about such things.
(hit five in 150 mile stretch with the Centurion, not as a flock either).
The little white silhouettes on the lower fender are getting a bit crowded.
;D
Steve
White Monster
March 17th, 2009, 05:38 AM
The problem isn't necessarily a car hurting the birds, its the birds hurting the cars...
Loud noises could scare them into the air, and into your... uh, flight path.
I doubt very seriously that the Wildlife Refuge organization who imposed restrictions limiting use of the airstrip to post July only events is concerned with birds hurting our cars ...
.. but a good point nonetheless.
Bob Wanner
March 17th, 2009, 03:01 PM
We, the LTA, were informed that the Maine Inland Wildlife people had classified the Upland Sandpiper a threatened species and as such we were not able to hold our event in our original desired late June time slot. The entire breeding season for the estimated approximate 20 pairs of these birds runs through July at Loring. This bird does apparently peacefully co exist with aircraft at other airport facilities throughout Maine and the US, but as there has been no air traffic activity at Loring in well over 10 years , the concern is the birds would be frightened off. Even though we have permission to utilize the runways for our purposes, we are asked to keep any off-pavement excursions to a minimum.
Besides, in June the Black Flies carry off any Bike smaller than 750cc.
Bob W
White Monster
March 17th, 2009, 03:36 PM
Thanks Dan for the clarification.
I'm sure none of us want to contribute to the Upland Sandpiper being frightened off from a Convair B-36 Peacemaker strategic bomber airfield.
;)
Orange95Z
March 17th, 2009, 03:41 PM
Oh darn the bad luck.
DanStokes
March 17th, 2009, 03:46 PM
I've heard that with a bit of mint jelly they are WONDERFUL. The Maxton crew will eat up this "problem" the first year.
Dan
White Monster
March 17th, 2009, 04:15 PM
On a more serious note, I checked the average weather statistics for Limestone, Maine for August:
Day Sunrise Sunset Avg. High Avg. Low Mean Record High Record Low
1 5:11 AM 8:03 PM 77F 55F 66F 93F (1995) 41F (1961)
2 5:13 AM 8:02 PM 77F 55F 66F 95F (1975) 40F (1961)
Caveman
March 17th, 2009, 07:48 PM
On a more serious note, I checked the average weather statistics for Limestone, Maine for August:
Day Sunrise Sunset Avg. High Avg. Low Mean Record High Record Low
1 5:11 AM 8:03 PM 77F 55F 66F 93F (1995) 41F (1961)
2 5:13 AM 8:02 PM 77F 55F 66F 95F (1975) 40F (1961)
Thaaaht theyah is hosspowah weathah, ayuh.
KeithTurk
March 18th, 2009, 04:30 AM
So they aren't an endangered spieces... Hmmmm
Keith
I'd kill Flipper for a Tuna Sandwich...
White Monster
March 18th, 2009, 06:15 AM
So they aren't an endangered species... Hmmmm
Depends what State you look at. I found that the State of Maine Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife have the Upland Sandpiper (Bartramia longicauda ) listed as THREATENED not ENDANGERED, as previously reported.
The upland sandpiper was listed as threatened in Maine in 1997 because of small populations, regional population declines, and diminishing habitat in the Northeast. It is also listed as a Migratory Bird Species of Management Concern in the Northeast by the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service.
State of Connecticut Department of Environmental Protection has listed the Upland Sandpiper as ENDANGERED.
The upland sandpiper prefers dry, open, grassy habitats and has an interesting predator response. When disturbed, upland sandpipers will run a short distance and "freeze" in an attempt to blend into surrounding habitat and confuse a predator.
What do they bring to the equation ? Upland sandpipers provide an added dimension to grasslands with their musical call, stirring courtship flights, and habit of perching on fenceposts, which enlivens the rural landscape. When alighting, the species momentarily holds its wings straight up. Its call is a liquid, mellow ch-wut, and in flight it whistles a strong qui-di-di-du.
As passenger pigeon populations declined in the late 1800s, market hunters turned to upland sandpipers as an additional gamebird and the once abundant bird experienced a population decline due to overhunting.
So in summation, they are threatened and endangered from hunters, not passing strategic bombers or land speed racers !!
;D
VTJUNK
March 18th, 2009, 06:27 AM
So they aren't an endangered species... Hmmmm
The upland sandpiper prefers dry, open, grassy habitats and has an interesting predator response. When disturbed, upland sandpipers will run a short distance and "freeze" in an attempt to blend into surrounding habitat and confuse a predator.
we have some guys at work that do that
1988montecarloss
March 31st, 2009, 03:38 PM
is this still going to happen or?
and where is a copy of the rules for this. id like to run if it dont cost too much
White Monster
March 31st, 2009, 04:17 PM
I've been accumulating information regarding the first Loring Timing Association meet at Loring Air Force Base near Limestone, Maine from lots of postings on various websites and received permission from Bob Wanner to post all the little tidbits together in one cohesive section, to assist all interested parties. Hope this helps.
The track is one and a half miles, starting line to traps.
ECTA rules will apply (Any vehicle ECTA or SCTA legal is also LTA legal).
No membership Fee.
July 31, 2009 Technical Inspection & setup
Racing August 1-2, 2009.
Pre registration starts soon.
V.P Fuel will be our on site event gas vendor
The 200MPH Club award will be something original and appropriate.
The accelerating surface is over 90% asphalt, which begins with 1000 feet of concrete ,followed by almost 7000 ft of Asphalt, then 3000 ft Asphalt, 1000 ft of same concrete as start, then 1000ft of emergency grade (abraded) asphalt, then sandy soil.
Every vehicle will be considered according to the safety equipment installed, speed potential, and the drivers' experience. Since it will be the first event at this venue for everyone, safety considerations will be paramount. Racers will increment by 25 mph faster per run. The only considerations will be to current SCTA/ECTA Competition licenses, but the rookie run policy will still apply.
Between now and race day, there will be Coefficient of Friction ( COF) tests on our track surfaces to determine as well as possible the best tires to mount on competing vehicles. As it is mostly asphalt and some concrete, typical high performance street tires will be fine for most under 150 mph vehicles. For the more serious racers, we'll post whatever we find to enhance their decision on rubber choices. This is a total necessity, not just a tuning option. Anything gained in acceleration also applies to deceleration and steering and handling. This will occur when the snow melts, probably sometime in May.
Bob Wanner, Loring Timing Association
FIREBALLMONZA
April 1st, 2009, 05:46 PM
Ill be taking a ride up for this.....sounds like it should be a great time
SpiderGearsMan
April 10th, 2009, 10:17 AM
maxton is 10 miles closer to bogota than loring
White Monster
April 10th, 2009, 01:06 PM
Cool !!
No reason not to go to both events then.
;)
greenjunk
April 10th, 2009, 08:37 PM
what color is the damn hat? ;D
White Monster
April 11th, 2009, 04:37 AM
We don't even know if it is a hat.
All Bob will say is; The 200MPH Club award will be something original and appropriate
???
greenjunk
April 11th, 2009, 07:01 PM
it better be a hat, with lobster claws on it ;D
miketblsr
April 11th, 2009, 07:07 PM
Website is alive. This thing is actually going to happen. I hope I can be a part of it!!!!
http://www.lta-lsr.com/
Darren N.
April 12th, 2009, 05:25 AM
Thanks for posting up the link. I'm still scheming hard to get out to Loring. ;D
Marcia
April 12th, 2009, 09:15 AM
it better be a hat, with lobster claws on it
Ah, maybe potatoes or Pine trees!
William Wilson
April 13th, 2009, 09:39 AM
It's almost official, I'm starting a car club with friends and coming out.
DanStokes
April 13th, 2009, 12:22 PM
This year it's Bonneville for me, but you can count on me for next year.
Have fun, go fast, be safe (not necessarily in that order).
Dan
1988montecarloss
April 27th, 2009, 08:30 AM
im gonna be there. im not sure if i'll be running the monte or not. depends what i do to it when i get a job this summer ??? i'll try to get my mom and dad to run her truck.
JoeyG
April 28th, 2009, 07:41 AM
This sounds like a really good time, but it is sooo far away >:(
White Monster
April 28th, 2009, 12:42 PM
Ssoooooooooooooooooooo far away !!!
>:(
YELLA BRICK
April 28th, 2009, 01:51 PM
WAY WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAY FAR AWAY :o :o :o :o :o :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
1988montecarloss
May 5th, 2009, 04:28 PM
so who is going?
Brian Lohnes
May 6th, 2009, 03:36 PM
(Sort of) Fail for me.
I got asked to be a groomsman in my pal Frank's wedding. It's on the same weekend as the Loring event.
SUCK (sort of)
Brian
fahrenschnell
May 17th, 2009, 04:37 PM
BIG FAIL......BIG SUCK.
Looks like I should be attending with the Maty brothers....Should be a riot.
Seth
JRoberts
May 18th, 2009, 05:30 PM
(Sort of) Fail for me.
I got asked to be a groomsman in my pal Frank's wedding. It's on the same weekend as the Loring event.
SUCK (sort of)
Brian
Geeze Brian, I hope your pal isn't on the forum. But nonetheless we have to set priorities and sometimes the right choices hurt a little.
greenjunk
May 19th, 2009, 04:30 PM
Booked our Hotel Sunday night. We are a go. Hopefully the little engine that could will stay together, cause I'm not going to have time for the swap wanted to do.
Caveman
May 19th, 2009, 07:13 PM
(Sort of) Fail for me.
I got asked to be a groomsman in my pal Frank's wedding. It's on the same weekend as the Loring event.
SUCK (sort of)
Brian
You STINKAH.
Tell him to move the date of the wedding, dammit.
Or at least move the reception to Loring, ME.
I'll be up there with the mean green ucky truck, it may get primered between now & then, but I'll roll the 'ole '56 up there. Gotta get a 200r4 in it so I don't hafta carry jerry cans at 8mpg... and I don't even have reservations, so there's a possibility of battling the bugs.
Look for me, but if you wanna chat, bring your cam card. ;D ;D http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/beavisnbutthead.gif
Look for
White Monster
May 20th, 2009, 04:56 AM
Tell him to move the date of the wedding, dammit.
Or at least move the reception to Loring, ME.
What a great way to start off their honeymoon, she would just love that !!!
:-\
Spudster
July 8th, 2009, 05:42 PM
When you LSR cats make the trek to Loring, be sure to check out our local speedway, www.spud-speedway.com (just down the street from Loring) and the restaurant/tavern, Eureka Hall, in the next door town of Stockholm. Also, check out www.loring.org (or Google: Loring Development Authority, Wikipedia link) to get some insite on this huge facility. The runways are 2.5 miles long and are backup landing sites for the space shuttle! Bonneville is sure on my bucket list but it looks like I'll see my first LSR right in my own back yard! And, Freiburger, if you can't afford a room, you can crash at my camp at Madawaska Lake and have dinner on me at Eureka Hall. Over and out.
1988montecarloss
July 25th, 2009, 10:25 PM
i dont know if im going to go or not. i'm barely gonna have enough money for the 5.3 i wanted and unless i can somehow scrape up some extra cash i know i wouldnt have enough for gas to get there and back. :'(
bummer
im definitely going if i can though
boxer3main
July 28th, 2009, 01:00 PM
MAINE......MOOSE......MAN.....MACHINE.......
:)
my first post, caught the news. I not only live in maine, I was in the air force at bangor and remember the last crazy strategic air command manuevres. I am very glad that very expensive place can do something else worthwhile.
I'll dig ut my my pocket change bucket for gas money and go check it out.
is there any 200mph goals? Can I use the nikon and panasonic mpeg2?
White Monster
July 28th, 2009, 01:02 PM
Boxer, I can almost assuredly, emphatically state that there will be 200+ MPH runs ...
;D
boxer3main
July 28th, 2009, 01:10 PM
nice. I hope to be there. In maine the fastest I saw was at a small dragstrip in winterport. this was in 1994. I was quite frustrated at the thought...
my own car barely hit third at the finish.
loring really is a great idea, summer cool. the ambient temps, some bonuses.
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