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  • 1988montecarloss
    Superhero BangShifter
    • Feb 2009
    • 3198

    #1

    MAF conversion

    so what would it take to convert my mustang to 89-93 MAF?

    thanks for all your help ;)
  • BBR
    Chief Do'er
    • Nov 2007
    • 11707

    #2
    Re: MAF conversion

    Meter, computer and some wires.

    Not hard at all.

    Here's write up: http://www.corral.net/tech/powerplant/maf_tech_2.html

    I used the harness CH-8611-F, from these guys on the one I did.

    Life is short. Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er.
    1969 Galaxie 500 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...ild-it-s-alive
    1998 Mustang GT https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...60-and-a-turbo
    1983 Mustang GT 545/552/302/Turbo302/552 http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...485-bbr-s-83gt
    1973 F-250 BBF Turbo Truck http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...uck-conversion
    1986 Ford Ranger EFI 545/C6 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...tooth-and-nail

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    • 1988montecarloss
      Superhero BangShifter
      • Feb 2009
      • 3198

      #3
      Re: MAF conversion

      ok, thanks

      i still cant post at corral.net though >

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      • dieselgeek
        Legendary BangShifter
        • Oct 2007
        • 9809

        #4
        Re: MAF conversion

        Originally posted by 1988montecarloss
        so what would it take to convert my mustang to 89-93 MAF?

        thanks for all your help ;)
        or maybe convert it to megasquirt speed density and be easier to tune. *lots* out there about doing it on a mustang, and TFI distributors are one of the easiest to work with.

        Besides, a MAF is a restriction!
        www.realtuners.com - catch the RealTuners Radio Podcast on Youtube, Facebook, iTunes, and anywhere else podcasts are distributed!

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        • 1988montecarloss
          Superhero BangShifter
          • Feb 2009
          • 3198

          #5
          Re: MAF conversion

          Originally posted by dieselgeek
          Originally posted by 1988montecarloss
          so what would it take to convert my mustang to 89-93 MAF?

          thanks for all your help ;)
          or maybe convert it to megasquirt speed density and be easier to tune. *lots* out there about doing it on a mustang, and TFI distributors are one of the easiest to work with.

          Besides, a MAF is a restriction!
          ya but i can get all the maf parts off craigslist for $50

          btw. whats a tfi distributor?

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          • BBR
            Chief Do'er
            • Nov 2007
            • 11707

            #6
            Re: MAF conversion

            it's what your mustang has in it now. TFI is Ford's computer controlled ignition.
            Life is short. Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er.
            1969 Galaxie 500 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...ild-it-s-alive
            1998 Mustang GT https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...60-and-a-turbo
            1983 Mustang GT 545/552/302/Turbo302/552 http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...485-bbr-s-83gt
            1973 F-250 BBF Turbo Truck http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...uck-conversion
            1986 Ford Ranger EFI 545/C6 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...tooth-and-nail

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            • 88pony
              Superhero BangShifter
              • Jan 2008
              • 597

              #7
              Re: MAF conversion

              Originally posted by Beagle
              http://www.megamanual.com/ms2/TFI.htm

              just curious, but why are you wanting MAF?
              Yes, why? There alot to be had before you need MAF. So I have read, anyways. At my rate, I'll never have to upgrade from my speed d :

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              • dieselgeek
                Legendary BangShifter
                • Oct 2007
                • 9809

                #8
                Re: MAF conversion

                Originally posted by 1988montecarloss
                Originally posted by dieselgeek
                Originally posted by 1988montecarloss
                so what would it take to convert my mustang to 89-93 MAF?

                thanks for all your help ;)
                or maybe convert it to megasquirt speed density and be easier to tune. *lots* out there about doing it on a mustang, and TFI distributors are one of the easiest to work with.

                Besides, a MAF is a restriction!
                ya but i can get all the maf parts off craigslist for $50

                btw. whats a tfi distributor?
                MAF might be the better choice if you're going to run stock parts/power, but you have to retune pretty quickly once you start adding bigger power parts (cam, etc.)... the retuning becomes challenging (but very doable) with the MAF setup, but you can keep all your speed density equipment now and go MS and be a step ahead of the curve. MS1 is comparable in price to the Ford tuning setups (both are at the cheap end of the list).

                TFI is a real simple interface with megasquirt. Full timing control. Add a basic CDI ignition (MSD 6A, don't need rev limiters or digital) and you get spark cut rev limits, launch control, tons of other features.

                The tuning part is a little challenge but lots of guys here figured it out (BBR, SilverBuick, even Chad lol).
                www.realtuners.com - catch the RealTuners Radio Podcast on Youtube, Facebook, iTunes, and anywhere else podcasts are distributed!

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                • 1988montecarloss
                  Superhero BangShifter
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 3198

                  #9
                  Re: MAF conversion

                  Originally posted by dieselgeek
                  Originally posted by 1988montecarloss
                  Originally posted by dieselgeek
                  Originally posted by 1988montecarloss
                  so what would it take to convert my mustang to 89-93 MAF?

                  thanks for all your help ;)
                  or maybe convert it to megasquirt speed density and be easier to tune. *lots* out there about doing it on a mustang, and TFI distributors are one of the easiest to work with.

                  Besides, a MAF is a restriction!
                  ya but i can get all the maf parts off craigslist for $50

                  btw. whats a tfi distributor?
                  MAF might be the better choice if you're going to run stock parts/power, but you have to retune pretty quickly once you start adding bigger power parts (cam, etc.)... the retuning becomes challenging (but very doable) with the MAF setup, but you can keep all your speed density equipment now and go MS and be a step ahead of the curve. MS1 is comparable in price to the Ford tuning setups (both are at the cheap end of the list).

                  TFI is a real simple interface with megasquirt. Full timing control. Add a basic CDI ignition (MSD 6A, don't need rev limiters or digital) and you get spark cut rev limits, launch control, tons of other features.

                  The tuning part is a little challenge but lots of guys here figured it out (BBR, SilverBuick, even Chad lol).
                  is there any place that i could send the megasquirt ecu to and have it tuned for a certain combination of parts?

                  the megasquirt tuning thing is still a bit intimidating to me.

                  a carb is still an option too
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                  and from what ive seen this motor would make it a high 11-sec. car. which is waaay more than enough

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                  • TheSilverBuick
                    ALMOST Spidey !
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 22145

                    #10
                    Re: MAF conversion

                    What's intimidating about it? The most confusing part of the whole set up (at least for me) was matching the ignition circuits to what actual ignition input you are going to use (namely VR circuit vs. coil neg, etc). After that it's a cake walk.
                    Escaped on a technicality.

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                    • 1988montecarloss
                      Superhero BangShifter
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 3198

                      #11
                      Re: MAF conversion

                      i know this is off-topic but...

                      DG, is the turbo on the fairmont a masterpower t70?

                      i just found one cheap.

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                      • dieselgeek
                        Legendary BangShifter
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 9809

                        #12
                        Re: MAF conversion

                        monte - the tuning part is the easier part. It's the install and debugging that can be a pain, but the benefit of a TFI/Ford setup is that it's almost a no brainer. Tons of people do it, there are "howto's" all over the internet and plenty of people here can help you work it out.

                        BBR did your ranger use TFI?
                        www.realtuners.com - catch the RealTuners Radio Podcast on Youtube, Facebook, iTunes, and anywhere else podcasts are distributed!

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                        • dieselgeek
                          Legendary BangShifter
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 9809

                          #13
                          Re: MAF conversion

                          Originally posted by 1988montecarloss
                          i know this is off-topic but...

                          DG, is the turbo on the fairmont a masterpower t70?

                          i just found one cheap.
                          Yes. Have it rebuilt and rebalanced so it lasts. Usually pretty cheap at the local diesel place.
                          www.realtuners.com - catch the RealTuners Radio Podcast on Youtube, Facebook, iTunes, and anywhere else podcasts are distributed!

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                          • IRONHEAD

                            #14
                            Re: MAF conversion

                            d.g.
                            now don't take this the wrong way..
                            but why not do a thread on just that.. a mega squirt build. the differences in megaI mega II mega extra/etc
                            and then the tuning part.. as the install will differ per car... but the get it up and running and tuning it.. should be all the same.. only the maps different..
                            it might help some. make a jump and try it...
                            most that work on cars (us,here) have no issue with the installing of the parts, thats pretty straight forward..
                            the computer settings (i.e. maps/etc) is the part most dread.. that and trouble shooting systems like that down the road..
                            just a thought

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                            • BBR
                              Chief Do'er
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 11707

                              #15
                              Re: MAF conversion

                              Originally posted by dieselgeek
                              BBR did your ranger use TFI?
                              Negative. I had a GM style HEI.
                              Life is short. Be a do'er and not a shoulda done'er.
                              1969 Galaxie 500 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...ild-it-s-alive
                              1998 Mustang GT https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...60-and-a-turbo
                              1983 Mustang GT 545/552/302/Turbo302/552 http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...485-bbr-s-83gt
                              1973 F-250 BBF Turbo Truck http://www.bangshift.com/forum/forum...uck-conversion
                              1986 Ford Ranger EFI 545/C6 https://bangshift.com/forum/forum/ba...tooth-and-nail

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